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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Apr 07, 2010
Im pretty sure he IS trying to exploit. He was writing some stupid stuff the whole game like he knew, that he is going to win, no matter how badly he was losing. And the fact that he dc just before his cit was down is just another evidence, but well, i can be wrong
on Apr 07, 2010

Yeah - get a screen shot of some of the nonsense and I'll add him if you catch him in the act.  I only post people here that I am 100% sure are pulling BS.  Thanks for the extra info though. 

on Apr 08, 2010

I would like to do some 2v2's with someone to see if I can get on the tier rated list.

 

The End.

on Apr 10, 2010

Played a game on the same team with Zoahr last night that I think was all random.

GM-McShane87 Forces of Light Regulus 70 Lost
Soccer-Mom Forces of Light Rook 70 Lost
KALELsmX Forces of Light Regulus 55 Lost
Zoahr Forces of Darkness Queen of Thorns 145 Won
pacov Forces of Darkness Rook 105 Won
TrouserSnake69 Forces of Darkness Regulus 105 Won

He played exceptionally well as QoT.  As you can see, they had 2 regs and were spamming the hell out of us.  Anything less than exceptional play on his part would probably have resulted in a loss imo, so hats off to him.  The other team was on vent with trouser and me in another channel (no Zoahr in vent).  I wouldn't make a tier 1 recommendation based on one game, but I was impressed. 

on Apr 10, 2010

Played a few games with Zoahr before my hiatus. I was impressed with him, and he certainly seemed like a good character, but he wasn't "top-notch". I remember him making this thread on the forums that complained no good players played Demigod anymore, then I beat him and said a few still did. He shrugged.

I got a chance to play with him again last night. I'll full-heartedly admit that I'm not as good as I was previously, but he was playing top-notch and he was playing quite well. I have a hard time saying "oh yeah he is tier 1" because our team was Oak - TB - DA against Rook - Erebus - Beast (Rook was KALEL). But I'd certainly like to play a few more games against him and see how he handles a stronger lineup of Demigods. 

on Apr 10, 2010

I play with Z a lot, and we sometimes have disagreements over builds, for example his heaven's wrath UB lol.  But he always ports on time, leaves the mana flag to capture the XP flag which I love since a lot of people don't prioritize that.  Overall excellent map awareness and I'm always comfortable with him, as soon as he stops getting heaven's wrath with UB I'd recommend for tier 1. 

on Apr 11, 2010

his da is sick.  I just remember playing a game with him as da and he was amazing with the swaps.  Also, ya... I can't stand the people who want to just hold mana lane and ignore mid.  You kill the creeps / cap mana flag, then go off and cap mid, and make it back to mana flag in time to recap it and kill the next wave.  Meh

on Apr 12, 2010

Thanks Cow and Pacov for adding me to Tier 2 o/

Despite being Tier 2 this will not make me dont suck sometimes ...

jk, Thanks again, I really like playing with these guys on that list.

 

 

 

on Apr 12, 2010

Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!

on Apr 12, 2010

Cowbuttzex
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!

That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak? 

on Apr 12, 2010

Cowbuttzex
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!

That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak? 

EDIT: oops double post

on Apr 12, 2010

GM-McShane87



Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 1074
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!


That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak? 

EDIT: oops double post

He plays a lot of characters, and just because he made one mistake in that game doesn't mean hes a terrible player. I am sure you have made a mistake before too.

on Apr 12, 2010

I've made probably thousands but I'm not sure there's been many times where I directly cost my team the game after I was asked to do something that would have saved it.  Also I'm not saying that he is terrible, I've seen much worse, but the criteria for tier 2 isn't just "not be terrible." 

on Apr 12, 2010

Imo if he wasn't tier II worthy the game wouldn't of lasted like an hour. He certainly pulled his weight in that game and many other times I have played with him he has done very well but I can't find a damn replay

on Apr 12, 2010

I agree he pulled his weight until the end where he blew the game in the last 5 minutes.  Does pulling your weight for 90% of a game still count?  That's where we have a disagreement.  However if I hadn't made a couple silly mistakes we wouldn't have been in position for him to lose the game like that so I'm partly to blame too. 

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