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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Jan 02, 2010

lifekatana
I think we should cut some names out though. I'll begin.


Red for noob/not good enough

Green for good player

Grey if you haven't played the guy.

 

 

oo7_warhammer (ub + reg)
2nana
Abuggeredhedgie (sedna)
Alberto
Alterschism -> He's my friend so I can't really say.
Amazing_Hero (oak)
Archon_SAAR (regulus!)

Armyhomestar (erebus) inactive

Atma44x (torch bearer)
Bad_Wong (erebus + oak)
Bier_Kanonier (oak)

bloodlust
BRiiGHTT (erb) inactive
Chaotic-Hawk (reg)
Cosmoe (qot) inactive
cowbuttzex (tb + oak)
Darz4 (qot)
Dark_Satana
destroyer989 (reg, but good w all)
DiceAreEvil (demon assassin)
Epiphenomenon (beast)

ErksaConti (sedna)
eXborderline (oak + erb)
eXXcentric (nominated himself)

FutileEmotion
gaabriel
gkrit (oak)
gl_Mithrander (oak + erb)

Hemp_Guy
Heros-Temp- (amazing with everything)
hiroshima (rook)
iamKira (beast + fire tb)

irek1988 (reg)
Izuz (oak)

JaY_BuDi
JayKayz (erb)

Jona_ (beast)
JudeTepes
kalelSmX (beast + rook + reg)
Ke5trel
killer_oak(oak)
Kingslet (oak)
Kitty0007 (beast)

Lethstang (oak + ub) -> I only played one game with this guy so I'm not sure.
lifekatana awesome player, absolutely raped me and probably the best player in the entire game.  
Lordi17 (oak + erb)
magla
McGreg
Mcshane (sedna + tb + oak)
mixmagic
Mooks67 (reg + erb)

morpheas768 (erebus)
Murder_DN (erebus)

mybones92 (support oak + mist erb + rook)
Naur (oak + da + reg)
NinjaAlk
NinkiCZ (rook + everybody)
nzac
Obiwhan (oak + beast)

Obscenitor/horsestrangler (rook + beast)
Ogham (oak + sed)
Orcun_BL (reg + beast)
pacov (beast + reg)
Pants (beast)
Peterdumptruck (minion erebus/minion oak)
PhYCE
PlaygroundLegend (rook + reg) -acct banned? inactive

Posidenii (rook)
rawrrr (beast)
receiver
Sakke
Sevenix
Shade (erebus)
Shinobinomono (rook)
Shred_demon (demon assassin)
spooky_ same as alter.
Supafishy
Swoxks
ThatGuyYoulove (added by someone then voted himself in once  , oak)
trousersnake (rook + beast)
Tukulis
tshughes (erebus)
Vesuvius
Viras (ice tb)
WindsweptStone(sedna)
wrastler118 (fire tb)
 

Not a terrible idea

Red for noob/not good enough

Green for good player

Grey if you haven't played the guy.

 

 

oo7_warhammer (ub + reg)
2nana
Abuggeredhedgie (sedna)
Alberto
Alterschism 
Amazing_Hero (oak)
Archon_SAAR (regulus!)

Armyhomestar (erebus) inactive

Atma44x (torch bearer)
Bad_Wong (erebus + oak)
Bier_Kanonier (oak) I have beaten Bier in every game he has been in with me.

bloodlust
BRiiGHTT (erb) inactive
Chaotic-Hawk (reg)
Cosmoe (qot) inactive
cowbuttzex (tb + oak)
Darz4 (qot)
Dark_Satana---> not that good imo
destroyer989 (reg, but good w all)
DiceAreEvil (demon assassin)
Epiphenomenon (beast)

ErksaConti (sedna)
eXborderline (oak + erb)
eXXcentric (nominated himself)

FutileEmotion
gaabriel
gkrit (oak) imo his UB is better than his oak
gl_Mithrander (oak + erb)

Hemp_Guy
Heros-Temp- (amazing with everything) doesn't play unless teams are stacked/his rook gets structural transfer
hiroshima (rook)
iamKira (beast + fire tb)

irek1988 (reg)
Izuz (oak)

JaY_BuDi
JayKayz (erb)

Jona_ (beast)
JudeTepes
kalelSmX (beast + rook + reg)
Ke5trel
killer_oak(oak)
Kingslet (oak)
Kitty0007 (beast)

Lethstang (oak + ub)
lifekatana
Lordi17 (oak + erb)
magla
McGreg
Mcshane (sedna + tb + oak)
mixmagic
Mooks67 (reg + erb)

morpheas768 (erebus)
Murder_DN (erebus) Should be UB not Erebus

mybones92 (support oak + mist erb + rook)
Naur (oak + da + reg)
NinjaAlk
NinkiCZ (rook + everybody)
nzac
Obiwhan (oak + beast)

Obscenitor/horsestrangler (rook + beast)
Ogham (oak + sed)
Orcun_BL (reg + beast)
pacov (beast + reg)
Pants (beast)
Peterdumptruck (minion erebus/minion oak)
PhYCE
PlaygroundLegend (rook + reg) -acct banned? inactive I don't count banned players

Posidenii (rook)
rawrrr (beast)
receiver
Sakke
Sevenix
Shade (erebus)
Shinobinomono (rook)
Shred_demon (demon assassin)
spooky_ same as alter.
Supafishy
Swoxks
ThatGuyYoulove (added by someone then voted himself in once  , oak)
trousersnake (rook + beast)
Tukulis
tshughes (erebus)
Vesuvius
Viras (ice tb)
WindsweptStone(sedna

My list is being very strict, I have not played with many of the players enough to make a call one way or another. I also cut all inactive players because they are no longer the best demigod players even if they were pro like PlayGround.

on Jan 02, 2010

StAcK3D_ActR

oh.. u werent? LOL

I totally was. I couldnt find a good stoned smiley. So that one had to do

on Jan 02, 2010

Teseer
I totally was. I couldnt find a good stoned smiley. So that one had to do

hahaha

on Jan 02, 2010

aw cow you redlisted me, I'm crushed ^^

It's true though, we don't win many games together...

 

on Jan 03, 2010

Let's update the key a bit:

  • Red = not a high level player
  • Green = high level player
  • Black = Nominated by someone else but not confirmed as a high level player
  • Strikethrough = inactive/banned/cheating player - comment should be added for these players
on Jan 03, 2010

op updated... now in painful Christmas colors

on Jan 03, 2010

Ke5trel
aw cow you redlisted me, I'm crushed ^^

It's true though, we don't win many games together...

 

Sorry Kestrel you were on top of the game until you took your leave of absence after coming back everyone caught up to you and or got better than you. I still think your a great player I am just being a stickler, I also cut Bier and Kira because I have not been impressed by them lately.

Honesty, my list should not be the one used. Please feel free to agree or disagree and fill in the missing people. Discussion on who belongs on a stricter list should not be left to one person that hasn't played with half of the list.

on Jan 03, 2010

Ke5trel
aw cow you redlisted me, I'm crushed ^^
It's true though, we don't win many games together...
 

Ke5trel - I've found you to be quite solid at creating builds and great regarding making strategic build decisions.  That said, in the games I've played against you (nothing recent, to be fair), I never consider myself threatened.  Alot of that could have come down to who was on your team at the time, of course.

on Jan 03, 2010

Honesty, my list should not be the one used.

hehe... deal with it.    We can update the list as needed

on Jan 03, 2010

A bit more complex but this is my pruning (I've been recommended by a couple people so think my opinion is justified)

People I have played several games with/against and consider a Tier I player (green list): -

NOTE: My Tier I is people who give you no room for a single mistake and will epically punish you for it. You can be an excellent player but not be Tier I because even though you may not make very many mistakes you might not be able to capitalize on your opponents slightest mistakes.

ErksaConti

FutileEmotion

NinkiCZ

Orcun_BL

Sakke

tshughes

People I have played several games with/against and think they are Tier II players (above average to extremely good):

abuggeredhedgie

Amazing_Hero

cowbuttzex

eXborderline <- weak late game though :-/

gkrit

irek1988

Jona_ <- weak early game though :-/

kalelSmX

Ke5trel

Lordi17

McGreg

Mcshane

morpheas768

Naur

nzac

Obscenitor/horsestrangler

Ogham

pacov

rawrrr

Shade

Shinobinomono

trousersnake

 

People I have played lots of games with/against and think they are Tier III or worse players (average or worse than average - redlist . Note that these people tend to fall more in the "average" category than the "bad" category):

Cosmoe

Darz4

Heros-Temp

hiroshima

Izuz

JudeTepes

Peterdumptruck <- he is a good player but he can't adapt and minion builds fall apart end game typically. He also tends to be a very angry person which makes him unenjoyable to play with or against

 

People who I have played a limited number of games with and have been impressed (recommending for Tier I/II - possible green list):

2nana

DiceAreEvil

Epiphenomenon

Hemp_Guy <- seems to play stacked games though?

lifekatana

Supafishy

ThatGuyYoulove

WindsweptStone

 

People who I have played a limited number of games with and they did not perform well each time (recommending for red-list):

oo7_warhammer

Atma44x

Dark_Satana

Kitty0007

mixmagic

 

People who I have only played one game with/against and they did poorly (may have tried new build/demigod/been drunk, just had a bad day, etc)

Bad_Wong <- only plays stacked games

JaY_Budi

on Jan 03, 2010

perhaps the best way would be to copy the list in the OP and indicate your changes in bold + a reason by that line...

on Jan 03, 2010

Incoming transmission from PlaygroundLegend:

 

"So, my hard drive died and I haven't been around in a bit, and for that I apologize. I would like to say thak you to pacov for trying to bring the top talent together in this post. But, I must say that I am angry with my automatic d/q because starcock banned me from the forum, I am not banned from the game as I have taken over my friends account, DemiMore. Although I agree with my nomiations for rook and reg are pretty and my mad 133333377z skillz with haX0r those characters, I think I should have been nominated for "greatest motherf**** of all time." instead.

Simply because of this:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=101345

Beating Orcun and Rezn0kuken without a favor item as Erebus.

and this:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=99098

Beating orcun and morph with a pug with beast.

Now, as amazing as I am, I cannot say that that I am the greatest DG player of all time, but I am the greatest mofo and forum troll. I think Dice is the greatest player at the #1 spot, followed by Naur. Dice taught me everything from the start, he was my sensei. 90% of the builds out now originated from him at some point. Even if you never saw Dice play or talked to him about a strat, he had it before you at some point.

Morpheas is one of the most adaptable players out. He doesn't have a mic, but he knows what needs to be done, I don't need to ask him for anything, he tp's when he needs to, covers flags, see ganks, buys cit upgrades and drops items for me to pick up without even asking, his map awareness is clutch. He's a great player and a great friend.

 

 

on Jan 03, 2010

Cowbuttzex




Bier_Kanonier (oak) I have beaten Bier in every game he has been in with me.

Hi, Cowbuttzex

First, I dont want to patricipate on this discussion "How are the best players"

You have beaten me last time on 13th August 2009, this is the first and only loss against u. (Easy to check because I dont play that much, and I only have 79 losses in Epoch 2, didnt checked Epoch 1 and beta games, sorry)

I think your statement is worthless, and sorry, I dont have the time to check, if I ever won a game against you.

You must have a really incredible memory, you should go in some of these TV-show to win a price there .

 

on Jan 03, 2010

In my understanding Thatguyyoulove is a good player but yes it's true that he only plays stacked teams. 

 

 

P.S. Nice Dice, I always questioned Orcun invulnerability. Although the comments are quite... enlightening.

on Jan 03, 2010

"

P.S. Nice Dice, I always questioned Orcun invulnerability. Although the comments are quite... enlightening."

I've beaten Orcun 2v2 as well but I think that he chose a sub-optimal team (UB + Rook. No monks). Most likely because he underestimated irek and I but w/e. Maybe he was just having a bad day? Wouldn't be surprised D:

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