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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Dec 30, 2009

Because 1vs1 is a great measure of skill >.>

Anyway, this is a hard question. Should a good player be able to play all demigods atleast decent. And more importantly what is considered decent? I would say that playing random is higher level games is a good indication of skill but on the other hand I question the premise of forcing players to play every single demigod at a high level. Why is this needed? Like Hedge mentioned, many people hate the way Sedna and omiting them from this list because of their (not totally unfunded) hate towards Sedna's playstyle would be obnoxious.

on Dec 30, 2009

+1 that 1v1s are not a measure of skill.

I dont think you have to play EVERY demigod, but you should be able to play every role.  Be that tank, support or DD.  Some demigods can fulfill mutiple roles, so you need to adapt to what your teammates have. 

on Dec 30, 2009

"

I also respectfully disagree about sedna - in 1v1, 2v2 and even 3v3 she cannot be killed or pushed out of the lane (if played right)."

TB can 1v1 , 2v1 and even 3v1. Hell 5v1 TB cannot be killed or pushed out of a lane (if played right).

Man. That magical phrase. "If played right". Makes you sound like a registered badass AND pro AND makes you seem like you know exactly what you're talking about. All in three words.

 

Of course "playing right" means locking and then turning tail and not engaging when the 5-man kill-team comes for you. Man, and you guys thought it wasn't possible.

on Dec 30, 2009

abuggeredhedgie
"

I also respectfully disagree about sedna - in 1v1, 2v2 and even 3v3 she cannot be killed or pushed out of the lane (if played right)."

TB can 1v1 , 2v1 and even 3v1. Hell 5v1 TB cannot be killed or pushed out of a lane (if played right).

Man. That magical phrase. "If played right". Makes you sound like a registered badass AND pro AND makes you seem like you know exactly what you're talking about. All in three words.

 

Of course "playing right" means locking and then turning tail and not engaging when the 5-man kill-team comes for you. Man, and you guys thought it wasn't possible.

I am a fan of sarcasm.

on Dec 30, 2009

I'll nominate Hellebus, his Sedna is insane.

Edit: Well he is inactive now but his Sedna was the best...

on Dec 31, 2009

I nominate ManySimpleThings for his Rook.

on Dec 31, 2009

DiceAreEvil
I nominate ManySimpleThings for his Rook.

Yeah, good Rook (though he was fed a bit when I played against him, easy to be good when fed though it's still an indication of skill). A smurf though (no idea who it is). So he could be on here twice?

on Jan 01, 2010

Who is the best rook player? I'd like to watch some replays.

on Jan 02, 2010

Splitshadow
Who is the best rook player? I'd like to watch some replays.

I would say that Obs is.

Janook is also an excellent Rook

on Jan 02, 2010

I haven't seen Obs's rook in awhile.  I'd personally put my rook or trouser's up against it.  Not sure who would shake out. 

on Jan 02, 2010

So... I'm trying not to turn this into a big flame war, but I'm going to progress this list a little... or start another one. Try not to be offended if you aren't listed.  Maybe I forgot.

People who pacov has been impressed with.  This is pretty much my personal hall of fame.  If you get any of these guys on your team, you are at an advantage, imo.

  1. kalelsmx (he's a very solid player, even if I can't make sense of his builds sometimes)
  2. trousersnake69 (this guy deserves alot of credit.  He's even made a fairly strong high level QoT build.
  3. pacov
  4. obscenitor (rook:  easily the best rook I had seen when last I played with.  Not his bots beast, even if he loves it)
  5. abuggeredhedgie (put him with many different teammates and he still shines)
  6. cowbuttzex (i generally think of him in the same category as me.  Adaptable and trying different builds/characters)
  7. tshughes
  8. FutileEmotion

honorable mentions.  People I haven't played with enough to put them in my personal list:  playgroundlegend (from the few games I've played with, I found him to be a great player), morpheas768 (dito), DiceAreEvil (have we played more than once?  you left an impression at the very least), Posidenii (enough people that I respect have played with him and consider him an excellent player, but I've never had the pleasure).

edit:  added tshughes and futileemotion to my list.

on Jan 02, 2010

I think it's clear almost no one in this thread has any clue what they're talking about.

Yes that includes you pacov.

on Jan 02, 2010

esonreggin
I think it's clear almost no one in this thread has any clue what they're talking about.

Yes that includes you pacov.

After saying something like that you normally follow it up by how you mean...

on Jan 02, 2010

Why isn't Py4eek up there? I haven't been able to beat him yet, as the stats clearly show.

on Jan 02, 2010

I think it's clear almost no one in this thread has any clue what they're talking about.

Yes that includes you pacov.

hehe... maybe.  It is all a little silly, after all.

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