Auroson is a very good player. Although he lacks some teamplay he was able to absolutly dominate his side with Bots. Although yes Havoc isn't that good and winning against a erebus with BotS UB means he didn't take mist which is basically a crime.

Thanks alot ! Really apreciate it. I watched alot of replays with U and Obscenitor.

I'm starting another list, somehow more silly than this one, that will rank players based on the favor item they choose alone.  Goodness...

I'm fine with indicating that this thread being quite silly.  It is.  My original intent has been muddled by others and myself.  Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a total jerk by cheating.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players. 

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are top level players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  Players that do not cheat (leave just as the citadel is going down, for instance) or desync games.  These are the people that you want or your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game. 

Then, there's the next group (or list).  These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players.

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. 

And a final group (or list) would be players that should be avoided.  These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat, consistently have severe connection problems, etc.  These are typically people I just make a mental note of and refuse to play with.

This thread is as childish and ridiculous as videogames players can get. All this "lists" stuff is so embarrasing i can't even think why it hasn't been locked yet.

Jeez so much e-masturbation going around, this thread should be in hall of shame.

Have you read anything pacov said besides the original post? 

I updated the OP again.

Edit - anyway, perhaps another way to look at this.  Hopefully this will get more of us playing together.  I'm out actively seeking games now as a PUG and have been hosting nighly pug games in the hopes of getting more people to play together.  Especially all of the top level folks.  People hated premades, I'm trying to get more high level pugs going.  If things go well, we end up with a list of who's great, who's up and coming, and who to avoid.  Do we need it?  ah... probably not.  I understand the sheer annoyance with someone calling an individual out and saying, you aren't good enough for tier 1, etc.  And if I ended up in tier 2, it would simply push me to become a better player or wonder why someone thought I belonged there.

edit2 - ...and if my peers think i belong there, then either they are crazy or my game could use some improvement.  Anyway, I love demigod and love playing competitively.  There is no effective measure of talent, IMO, other than my peers.  If you disagree, I could host infinite 1v1 games and win or choose to host disconnect if I lose... eventually I'll rise to ladder rank number 1.  Not because I'm great, but because I'd be abusing the system.  And seeing as I despise people who cheat, sounds like feedback from my peers is where its at.

Well p4eek should be in the Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided: list.

Prizmsurf should be on the To Be Avoided list.

Synnworld should be on all lists.

Players that should be avoided:

Hemp_boy ---> host desync

Prussian Havoc ---> exploiter

Py4eek ----> exploiter

I've never know prussian to exploit (with the exception of his fighting AI for EXP back when that was possible).  Is that what you are referring to?

though i dont think that this should be a list about the "best" players i like the idea of a list of good players you can rely on not playing badly.

so just a general list of players that dont suck and are open for "suggestions" and play in a _team_ not just with some random mates.

Fair enough.

ok.  I loaded lifekatana's list from a few pages back.  All are loaded at the tier 2 level.  Elevate who... add who... etc. 

I'm really serious about me being very hesitant to put anyone in the players to avoid column.  I know we've discussed some of these people before, but back up why you want whoever added.  Some sort of proof is required.  Even if its links to other posts, etc.

Just in case anyone is bored, here is pretty much my favorite forum post ever:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/357971.

Reply #7 followed by #8 in particular.

Here's a taste:  "Ok if you honestly have that hard of a time believing that my dog unplugged my modem..."

It's an old thread... just fyi.