Pacov's place to enjoy the show.

This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

Comments (Page 21)
108 PagesFirst 19 20 21 22 23  Last
on Jan 05, 2010

Bad_Wong does the same as alienwarrior today i joined his 1on1 prison game beat him quickly and the game never showed up however u would have to take my word for it since i dont have any way of proving this

on Jan 06, 2010


Prussian Havoc ---> exploiter


I've never know prussian to exploit (with the exception of his fighting AI for EXP back when that was possible).  Is that what you are referring to?

He always abuses pantheon so he can be top in the ladder.

on Jan 06, 2010

He always abuses pantheon so he can be top in the ladder.

but how?  playing panth alot is not abuse imo.  He DID abuse with the AI shite before... but if he's playing solely panth because that's what he likes, then I have no issue with it.  Even if it means he goes high on the ladder.

on Jan 06, 2010

Wipuliwo
Bad_Wong does the same as alienwarrior today i joined his 1on1 prison game beat him quickly and the game never showed up however u would have to take my word for it since i dont have any way of proving this

I've played about 20 games in Pantheon yesterday, and only 15 of them were counted in stats. Thing that i've mentioned is when U're playing 1v1 games and U're not host, it's enough (for host) just to leave the game with alt+f4 or F10>End game , to make this game not couted in stats. And the game always counted when host player make F10>concede. I'm not practicing such bug/exploit, just for those who think that if some game wasn't counted in stats - he is guilty for sure.

on Jan 06, 2010

About the list:

I can't see anybody I directly disagree with being there atm. I haven't played with all though but those I have played with on that list deserves their places imo.

Also, pushing back my modesty, Archon nominated me to be on that list and I think I should be there too...

on Jan 06, 2010

Added Esuzu to tier 2 list.  Just fyi - I'm not intentionally excluding anyone from the tier 2 list.  If you were nominated and aren't on this list, its simply because I missed you. 

Auroson1c - believe me, I know what you mean.  Because of how rediculously simple it is to exploit stats in 1v1 and even 2v2, accusing everyone of being a cheat if a game doesn't show up is a bit silly.  My general policy is to confront individuals directly, educate them that they are stat exploiting (giving them the benefit of the doubt that its unintentional), and then requesting that they knock it off.  Reviewing their stats or a game with them in the future typically reveals if they are still stat exploiting.  And if so, it's relatively clear that its intentional.

on Jan 06, 2010

Nice list but what makes me think is that only a handful of the mentioned guys I have ever seen playing pantheon.

In my eyes especially pantheon shows skilled players as they have to play with whomever they are put together with. No teamspeak or any tactics trained in premade games with mates. If you can play demigod is shown here. I saw players who managed to win a 3on3 game with 2 leavers meaning 2 AI controlled, money delivering guys to the other team while the other team wasn´t that bad......so here comes skill into play....

Btw the guy mentioned winning the game was TBxVividos, playing a great Oak !

Additional voting for a very good demon assassin player: jteddymd_guest

...and for a fine Rook: gohgoh

on Jan 06, 2010

Actually Pacov this is even getting worse. This puts people in groups much more than an "elite"list.

 

Instead of cutting people, let players show if they're good. Because it's now like the lists gets bigger and bigger while there's no indication that any of them are actually good. If they're good, they should have a reccomendation of top players that "are generally considered good" and maybe a replay and/or some way to show their skill.

You shouldn't be writing every guy up that's suggested by the average forum goer (me included).

on Jan 06, 2010

In my eyes especially pantheon shows skilled players as they have to play with whomever they are put together with.

Yes and no... I actually personally go to panth games when I'm looking for a less competitive, more laid back game.  You're right that, with the exception of people trying to join the panth with their buddies, you have to play with whoever you get, but its hardly matchmaking based on skill.  Its just luck of the draw. 

@katana - I'll use some discretion regarding the tier 2 list.

on Jan 06, 2010

Don't you wish that you had a worthwhile matchmaking and ranking system? Wouldn't need a 300+ post for this if you did. =P

on Jan 06, 2010

Added Esuzu to tier 2 list.  Just fyi - I'm not intentionally excluding anyone from the tier 2 list.  If you were nominated and aren't on this list, its simply because I missed you. 

I know. It is easy to miss things when there are 1 new page to read every day

on Jan 06, 2010

Don't you wish that you had a worthwhile matchmaking and ranking system? Wouldn't need a 300+ post for this if you did. =P

hehe.  But of course.  But demigod is what you make of it.  So much fun... so much pain.  Looking forward to seeing what the next patch brings.

on Jan 06, 2010

I would like to nominate a few people to the tier 1 list. These people should be discussed before induction.

Orcun imo is one of the best.

Just played a game recently with NinkiCZ he is an excellant player.

I would also like to add Star Wars Episode 1 sound track to the tier 1 list because it has blown my mind the last 3 days.

on Jan 06, 2010

lol Soundtrack seconded.

 

Haven't played with Orcun like I said, but NinkiCZ is a good player although from experience I haven't seen him play a varied repetoire mostly(or solely) UB.

on Jan 06, 2010

Think we should make replays a requirement for induction to tier 1?  And the replay being not just rolling over a so-so group of pugs.  Not sure if that's pushing it or not.  Regarding Orcun, I mentioned earlier that my only direct experience with him was against him, and in those 4-8 games we broke about even in victories.  Enough people that I consider excellent think he belongs in the tier 1 list, so I really don't oppose. 

I'm not sure about ninkiCZ.  I'll have to look through my games.  I'm not entirely sure I've played with him much off the top of my head.  If he's limited to being exceptional with just 1 dg, then I don't think tier 1 is the place for him.  And that's not to say that he is limited to 1, I just don't really know from experience, so no offense meant... just going by lifekatana's comment. 

I was thinking about Sakke and EskaConti as well.  Hedgie considered them to be tier 1 (under a different definition).  I'd say those 2 fit well in tier 2.  They are great as 2 man team (one of the best imo - so long as you keep playing with them), but their strength lies in their 2 man team and adpativeness.  As individual players, they are no where near as strong and their strategy isn't anywhere near as effective, imo.

108 PagesFirst 19 20 21 22 23  Last