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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 30, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ
It's actually not that easy to make a list like this and get away with it.

You'd have to be a guy who is respected among the community, but not really known as everyone's best friend - kinda like a politician.

 

ummm.....like pacov? 

on May 30, 2010

kinda like me -

but anyway, I find that a care quite a bit less about this list.  When I originally created it, it (for the most part) reflected my opinions on skill level in the community.  It also got a bunch of the folks that refused to play anyone other than random pugs playing in more games against other teams, etc. For instance, if I create a post and indicate that X people are the absolute best in demigod, then all of those folks that were omitted start to get a bit pissy.  Sounds pretty arrogant, right?  But those people that were omitted or classified as less skilled than X person now either say F your list or make an effort to prove that they are good or better than X.  To prove you are better than X, you generally have to kick X's ass.  This means you, who either are great or just simply think you are great, have to play against someone that I considered great to back up the claim that you are super, etc.  Anyway, the list helped facilitate getting ALOT of people together would normally not play together, even if only for bragging rights if you took someone out. 

Anyhow, as it stands today, I'm perfectly willing to accept that some players are better than me, some players that think they are but are not, some players that are on a relatively even level of skill with me, and those that are weaker players than me.  In my mind, that is tier 1 (better than me), tier 1.5 (me/as good as me), tier 2 (not as good as me), and then a 4th category, which is for folks that aren't maybe someone else thinks is super, but I either disagree or simply haven't played much with them (unranked).  So, pacov's list, if it was really just my list, would all be relative to me.  Who is > pacov, pacov, < pacov, and UNRANKED.  Thinking like that, we all could create our own lists, based only on our experience and opinion where we'd classify ourselves and those around us. 

Anyway, the real downside about this list is that people HATE being classified as less skilled than another (ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY KNOW THEY ARE CLEARLY MUCH BETTER THAN PERSON X).  There are 1 or 2 egos around here, eh?  Anyway, I'm perfectly happy to close out this thread and leave it be or perhaps to get a new list going.  I'm also perfectly happy if one of you folks with a tougher hide make their own list and have people weigh in on that.  But your 1 warning is that you are inviting quite a bit of drama. 

 

on May 30, 2010

kal mentioned that perhaps ninki/kal/hedgie are talking about creating their own community ranking post... so if they get around to that, stay tune for those of you that care about lists and rankings

on May 30, 2010

NOT NINKI!!!   

on May 30, 2010

Ninki? commenting on other peoples rankings? Right.

If I had to choose 3 people to pick the rankings, I'd say...Zen (Lots of games, acknowledges that most are noobs), Shane (Been around, long time, skilled)...Maybe Rawrrr (The man plays with Peter! ON HIS TEAM) or Renz (Frank and honest). As you can see, I've gone with the not biased/skilled approach rather then the TALK A LOT clique. I didn't pick myself cause I typically play in a much smaller group, therefore, my opinions of half of the people on that list still are tier 2 at best, and possibly outdated. I'm pretty sure the guys I've chosen have gotten a lot of games in with everyone.

on May 30, 2010

I'm just going to ignore these comments,

but if someone can identify who is in that display pic, I will be truly greatful and I'll give you karma.

on May 30, 2010

that's just the secret lagwars chat of the hour - apparently the fellows had a chat late one night on how things should be done.  Hopefully they will start their own thread soon.  I'll close my thread out, methinks, once the tourney is over. 

on May 30, 2010

Ninki - douchebag from the jersey shore

well played koush

on May 30, 2010

^THAT'S WHAT I SAID, HE SAYS IT'S NOT!!!

on May 30, 2010

OMG_pacov
that's just the secret lagwars chat of the hour - apparently the fellows had a chat late one night on how things should be done.  Hopefully they will start their own thread soon.  I'll close my thread out, methinks, once the tourney is over. 

I have no idea what you're talking about. 

on May 30, 2010

I have no idea what you're talking about.

That's what she said.  Then Hedgie and the lady talked it out and everything was clear.

It so is someone from the jersey shore. 

on May 30, 2010

OMG_pacov

It so is someone from the jersey shore. 

I did side by side comparisons and it only slightly looks like DJ Pauly D but it doesn't exactly look like him.

on May 31, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 1466
It so is someone from the jersey shore. 

I did side by side comparisons and it only slightly looks like DJ Pauly D but it doesn't exactly look like him.

I believe it is Carmine Agnello Jr., Grandson of former mob boss John Gotti. 

on May 31, 2010

^I knew you out of all people would be most knowledgeable about this but you left before I could ask.

Looks close, but not quite there.

on May 31, 2010

it's from a demotivational picture.  I recognize the picture, but cannot find the right one for the life of me.

Anyway.. if you don't specifically know the picture, gl finding it.  Here are some near identical look-a-likes:

 

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