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Published on August 17, 2011 By pacov In PC Gaming

So, during the (12 day or so) downtime with the MP servers, I decided to give LoL another go and have been enjoying myself.  I'm glad DG is back up and running, but the break was enough for me to try another competitive DoTa style game and start to enjoy it.  This thread isn't about bashing DG or any nonsense (so don't ffs).  Its simply a place for those of us that play or have played DG and now play LoL as a main or occasionally to discuss the game and keep in touch. 

So - chime in here if you have been playing LoL with your experiences or whatever you want to chat about.

 

I'll get us started.  I've been enjoying the F2P aspect of LoL quite a bit.  Remember WAAAAYYYY back when favor points in DG meant something?  Eg - remember playing games and looking forward to unlocking a favor item you wanted to try out?  It's like that all the time with LoL (well, it will be for quite some time anyway).  You get IP (favor points) for every game you play.  You can shell out some money if you really want to buy all of the characters, etc (the temptation is always there for the quick win), but you can also just play for fun and earn enough IP to unlock a new char, etc.  It's been very satisfying for me slowly earn enough IP to try out a new character, etc.

As it stands, I'm ok with 3 characters (card guy, silv, and viking pants - there are so many char it takes awhile to learn all the names).  I'm ok early, decent mid game, and utter SHITE late game with my characters.  It seems very diff from DG in that respect (if we are kicking ass early/mid, you can't harass like a god late game - that's gotten me killed more than a few times).  There are ALOT of reasonable builds (from what I can tell).  I started by trying out many diff char vs ai to learn them (that's why I'm like level 12 with "13 wins" or so).  Then I learned you get more IP from playing against humans, so I just switched up.

Anyway, I think the game is fun now and I'm looking forward to the new domination mode (it's a Demigod knock off imo) that is essentially holding points to get bonuses from what I understand.  Hearing about that mode is pretty much exactly why I started playing.  Oh, and pretty damn close to 100% of games end because another team beat you - not because someone dropped. 

Anyway, I'm going thru a learning curve.  I play with folks that are "experienced" and I often think they are retarded after my impressive 40 games or so (vs their 500+ games).  The strats often sound idiotic to me.  But that said, I fell into line in a game with jon, paint, obi, and 2 of jon's clan mates tonight and we scored a win when i thought we were done.  My biggest weakness (I think anyway) is not knowing what folks can do with their characters... I think there are like 70 char... as a new player, you have NO IDEA what each char can do until you play them or play against them enough... and that will take some time.  Anyway, I'm pacov on LoL if you play and want to add me as a friend.  I'm not exactly good, but I probably won't lose you the game at this point.  We should organize some LoL games and some DG games.  Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you.


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on Sep 11, 2011

^The list seems a bit off... maybe it's a little older?

I'm not exactly sure what level you're in, but if you're climbing up to 30, the easiest thing to do is to just pick an AD carry and just carry your way to ~1500 elo, then support.

AD carry is extremely easy and as long as you can keep your distance (which isn't that hard with flash and a lot of AD carries have escape mechanics) then you should be ok. The problem with AP carry is that they're not as efficient in taking down tanks and they start to wane in late game when everyone starts to stack MR. There are better armour pen items in the game so even if the opponent starts stacking armour it's not a big deal for an AD carry.

Once you get to 1500 elo, then support is honestly the easiest role. Their only purpose is to beef up the AD carry and try to not die more than 5 times. I have quite a few friends in high elo purely from supporting even though they're not really all that great at the game themselves.

on Sep 11, 2011

ok butch i've practiced up a bit now I'll hit you up for a game later on. Man LoL is full of feeders - my rage is going well.

 

Thunder add me what's your tag? Re your Q I found that using Ashe is good for practicing initially as you usually get given the centre lane to yourself - so you can practice final hits etc and generally have to have map awareness to avoid ganks and pick up kills on the sides.

 

Screenshit.

on Sep 11, 2011

OMG_NinkiCZ
^The list seems a bit off... maybe it's a little older?

I'm not exactly sure what level you're in, but if you're climbing up to 30, the easiest thing to do is to just pick an AD carry and just carry your way to ~1500 elo, then support.

AD carry is extremely easy and as long as you can keep your distance (which isn't that hard with flash and a lot of AD carries have escape mechanics) then you should be ok. The problem with AP carry is that they're not as efficient in taking down tanks and they start to wane in late game when everyone starts to stack MR. There are better armour pen items in the game so even if the opponent starts stacking armour it's not a big deal for an AD carry.

Once you get to 1500 elo, then support is honestly the easiest role. Their only purpose is to beef up the AD carry and try to not die more than 5 times. I have quite a few friends in high elo purely from supporting even though they're not really all that great at the game themselves.

There is nothing wrong with trying to play an AD Carry whenever possible, but sub 1200 ranked is littered with people who insist on playing Carries all the time no matter what their team needs on the "I must carry" line of reasoning.  The bottom line is that its a terrible idea to take an AD Carry if you have a 4th or 5th pick and your team doesnt need one.  It loses teams games so often.

Luckily I got clear of that nonsense, since the people who insist on being all carries all the time dont make it past 1350 or so very often.

Playing support alone is a good way to win about half of your games in solo queue.  I dont think that its a great idea if you are queuing ranked alone (obviously you have to play support sometimes if your team needs it).  But its a really strong way to play if you are playing with somebody who can carry you to higher ELO.  Its kind of hard to be terrible at support champs if you have basic LoL skills, so yeah, if you can find somebody good and just play support, its a great way to get carried to higher ELO than you would be in another role.

on Sep 11, 2011

@Ninki Yeah, its definitely an outdated list but I don't think much has changed from what I need to reference.  I'm still only at level 13 so having that list handy as a cheat sheet at least lets me figure out what would be good for me to practice with considering what everyone else has picked.  Also, if its a PvP game, it keeps me from embarrassing mistakes when certain enemy champions roles in the game aren't intuitive.  For instance Shen seemed like some sort of assassin melee DPS character when I first started playing but I was educated otherwise by a teammate one game.

"Dude... Please. Stop.  Attacking.  Shen.  HE'S THEIR !@#$ing TANK!"

Not to toot my own horn, but I'm feelig like a Big Dick Playah when I pick Urgot, so your advice is good I think... but I really want to get good with all different types of champs while I'm at the lower skill levels and feel like one of the better players most games I get matched up in.  Gotta take advantage of this window before things get more competitive and its harder to learn different styles of play.

 

@Doggu  I think we're already friends, I'm "LavaShark" in LoL.  Lets play some games bro, think we're about the same level if I'm not mistaken.

 

 

on Sep 12, 2011

Got to play a couple with krazikarl on vent yesterday.  Played some with sarmis and quite a few with his bud mccheesypants.  McCheesey taught me how people like to blame shen anytjime they die (mccheesy went shen).  It was quite entertaining to watch terrible players do pointless things, die, and then yell at whoever was playing shen.  More later mayhaps (and I apparently have a bit of reading material in this thread since last I checked it.  )

on Sep 12, 2011

ok butch i've practiced up a bit now I'll hit you up for a game later on. Man LoL is full of feeders - my rage is going well.

Mayhaps we get a few games in tonight.

I went and purchased another character bundle, so I've got some new ones to try out.  I've played a little with galieo and he's exceptionally easy to use imo as a tank and for lane control.  Might have to officially unlock him soon.  Excellent for cc.

on Sep 12, 2011

I want to like Galieo I really do, but his ult is lackluster. It sounds great on paper but in every in game context all it does its get me killed, without any possitive side effects.

This could be b/c of PUG's.

 

The losing streak of Carbon continues.

I had one win in the last 10+ games. Good old Malphite. I say he is my main. He never does me wrong.

 

Guess I should also mention my other champs I tend to favor.

Malphite
Sion
Skarner (Im trying really hard to get awesome with him for Dominion)
Maokai
Shen (I like this guy alot but doesnt play well in 5s )
Trundle
Nasus
Twitch

I play a few more but those I say are my main rotation. I like to play the tank or off tank role, if you had to classify it. Mostly b/c everyone in PUG's likes to be carries. I dont. I think I play one carry. Anyhow. Im still sucking. Maybe I'll catch you guys one of these nights and we can attempt to laugh at bad players. Like me

on Sep 12, 2011

-Ue_Carbon
I want to like Galieo I really do, but his ult is lackluster. It sounds great on paper but in every in game context all it does its get me killed, without any possitive side effects.

This could be b/c of PUG's.

I think it's probably the pugs you are with.  In small battles (2v1 or 2v2) it just about guarantees a kill for the team.  In large battles... well, that all comes down to how the team responds.  I'm still customizing my build, but I'm thinking thornmail or the hourglass would be huge (hourglass immediately after your ult in some circumstances).

I'll likely be on and up for a game around 7PM EST tonight.

 

on Sep 12, 2011

Galio's ult is all about crowd control, if your team is with you they should be piling on the damage to whoever they want while the enemy is forced to auto-attack you. With a good team (ie they follow the tanks lead) the ult is brilliant, with a poor team (ie they don't follow the tanks lead) its significantly weaker. 1v1 its a weak ult.

 

If your having problems staying alive with the ult, throw on yourself the shield that heals Galio. Extra armor and health per damage taken, joy!.

on Sep 12, 2011

I don't like Galieo... I love him!  Maybe I've just been lucky to have a lot of situations in the games I've played him.  I tend to have lots of enemy creeps around when I use it, so the effect is usually maxed out.

on Sep 12, 2011

Thundercles
I don't like Galieo... I love him!  Maybe I've just been lucky to have a lot of situations in the games I've played him.  I tend to have lots of enemy creeps around when I use it, so the effect is usually maxed out.

Yeah - the dmg output on Q is very nice - always fun to hit a carry with it and watch their HP go to crap.

on Sep 12, 2011

Painful gaming night for me.  I actually had to dump out of a game because of work tonight.  We've got a major project going on and I was paged out at like 9PM to help with troubleshooting/coding.  I sooo hate dumping from any game though, but it is what it is (that's the demigod in me - you COMPLETELY screw over your team if you drop there... less so in lol, but still...).  I tried out twitch when I got back to playing.  He's a little fun, but frankly, every guide I glanced at was just idiotic, including the playstyle descriptions.  He's just super weak early (but good for ganks early).  His mid game dries up to nothing.  Late game he's great, if he managed to snag some kills.  Anyway, not a huge fan, but I'll probably give it a go again.  Played the flying blue bird character - that was fun.  Super squishy, but I loved mid and late game.  I went back to galio after all of my pug games having ZERO tanks.  We tore it up.  Pretty sure i did a great job as well.  I think if we have a full team in vent, I could do an awesome job with galio.  But my pug team did well with paying attention... never did get my thornmail though. 

on Sep 13, 2011


Yeah - the dmg output on Q is very nice - always fun to hit a carry with it and watch their HP go to crap.

I meant his ult, but yeah, Q is great too if you got opposing laners who like to hold each others hands or are being zoned out and your opponent doesn't have the sense to step away from his minions who are at low health.  As far as the ult goes, I especially like it cause it reminds me of playing TB in DG.  Torch all the creeps with a burst and enjoy watching your opponent get flustered as he's suddenly the sole target of a couple waves of minions.  Good times... 

 

So I've got the Digital Collector's pack and have been at least trying them and all the free guys out in custom 1v0 games to see how they scale and "feel" what the champs do.  The ones I kinda like I play in a comp stomp to get better at and then they're available for me to play in my low level PvP games to figure out if I like them enough to want to buy them some day if I don't already have them.  Its kinda like an interview process I guess... plus its good to know what your enemies and allies are capable of.

Even the champs that don't fit me or I don't understand well enough to see how they could be used, I still can appreciate how someone might dominate.  Except for Zilean.  I don't get what makes him useful at all... gonna have to read a guide on him or something, but I've never seen him in play so maybe its not just me who doesn't get what role he's supposed to fulfill.

on Sep 13, 2011

Zilean is horrendous.  He has a speed boost/slow and timed bomb that combine for nearly unmatched harassment.  Speed up and run down your opponent, strap a bomb on them, back off, and laugh while they blow up for sickening damage and hurt anything near them as well.  His ultimate undoes killing strokes, making you waste effort killing the enemy carry just to have it pop back up on you.

 

That freaking bomb is on a ten second timer, and his third basic ability is a 10 second reduction in all his other timers, so you can double stack the bastard for an instant explosion before the timed one goes off, add to that it's got a .9 ability modifier.  He's one of the harder characters to catch and escape from, and does outstanding damage with that bleeding bomb.

on Sep 13, 2011

Thundercles
So I've got the Digital Collector's pack and have been at least trying them and all the free guys out in custom 1v0 games to see how they scale and "feel" what the champs do.

I've been doing similar things.  I typically just start out in a 5v5 ai game and then play a real game if I'm not terribad. 

I typically will look at a very guides for any character before trying them out so I have a basic idea of the role I need to play and how to do it. I know not all guides are super, ofc, though.

I'm so looking forward to level 30 where I get that extra quint slot.  I'm slowly acquiring better and better runes.

 

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