yeah - no kidding.  I can do a passable graves, but that's about it ad land.   Same with jungle trundle - can jungle just fine w him

last game of the night was smeh - played with karl and 1 of his buds (never played with before).  Anyway, his bud had a less than stellar game and we had the worst tryn on earth - eg the type that has 1/15/2 stats and blames everyone for his failure.  I muted the idiot after about 4 minutes knowing it was just going to be a troll fest.  Anyway, karl and I played solid.  Our singed did well also.  Karls buddy and idiot tryn did not do quite as well. Anyway, it was fun at least... I wasted at least 3 of my ults saving our dumb tryd (honestly, his main problem was not realizing that he was crap and that he just needed to be more cautious early - also he is retarded and complained that i was under leveled when I was 7 and he was 5 - note that pacov muted immediately after that comment ).  Anyway, it still was fun.  So happy we had a good singed, but perhaps it would have been better if we didn't.  Game would have ended sooner.

Anyway, used IP to buy my last 1350 character (so now I have everyone 1350 and below).   I'm currently not giving a rip about ip, so hopefully that lasts a bit... that way I won't blow any more money on IP bonuses. 

are 4-day IP bonuses worth it?

I'm going up to sTeven's on Thursday and it's like 560 RP right? And we'll probably play a bunch but...

would you really get like 6000 IP from that bonus?

hmm... mayhaps forums ate my post - quick summary of my longer winded reply - If you have some time to dedicate to it, the 4 day bonus is worth it.  I easily got anywhere from 4.5k-6k ip out of it.   I think you get around 175-200 ip per game total for a win - plus your first game of the day bonuses.  That can add up pretty quickly (as long as you are winning and if you are lucky enough to have multiple 20 min games).

side note - I think I handled your pal steve ok during that one game the other day.  I know you said he can be a little sensitive, so hopefully the way I spoke to him came across kind.  I think it did, anyway. 

alright I'll think about it then. Depends how much we drink I guess he has an entire bottle of Grey Goose for me

But yeah he was alright I think, he didn't say anything to me about it, other than feeling like he would try to follow you and die (and not realizing that is par for the course with playing with pacov ). He ended up raging pretty hard core towards the end of the night though - not related to you though. I guess LoL has some problems on his computer with lag delay (though the servers have been pretty messy for me recently too). 

ooo - watching a game in spectator mode now!

Yeah this just happened.

Had over 500 Armor with Brutal Strike activated. Alot of my deaths where preventable, if my team would of been more aggressive. And towards the end I was just diving into all 5 by myself just to see how much damage I could do before dying.

I'll never get this lucky again.

That looks alot like my stats playing like a jackass as singed.    Lots of fun though - glad you got to enjoy yourself.

Picked up lux last night.  I really digging her.  Amazingly strong harass early game and some excellent nuking abilities.  Seems to do best bottom lane with a melee AD character.  So amazingly squishy, though, so you have to be very cautious and be spot on with your snares. 

What a dumb team....

Madreds and Last Whisper would have done them a hell of a lot of good.

watching this live stream of lol

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/stream/wickd-86

still playing a bit tonight - me/cheesy/hedgie/karl/carbon now

OK - so I have a new fav of the day   Note - pacov is happy he's finding folks that he's generally good at and generally has alot of fun with.

First - I super love lux.  The shame is that I can only play on a decent team and if I'm laned with a decent AD player.  She's easily (imo) one of the very best early game characters.  The dmg output with a slow + an AA on an AP rune build is just sick.  But she's uber squishy.... that said, she can also take out 2 players mid/late without a thought.  Anyway, my mid isn't good enough to keep playing her often.

And back to what I mentioned:  my new fav.  Gankplank.  I love characters that I can go off into any lane with and thrive.  For me, I currently have 2 characters that are like that where I'm comfortable anywhere:  gragas and now GP.  If we are just talking about straight up fun folks to play, singed and GP are in the same category for me.  Because his q works with crit damage, I can harass like a mofo early or just easily sit back and farm with my q as well.  He's uber squishy early, but for every CS I take with my q, I'm getting bonus gold with that - and I always start with gloves and build that into avarice on my first trip back for extra money.  On my best game of the night with him, I ended the game with right around 8k more gold than anyone on the team - and I could kill any carry in 1-2 shots. 

Anyway, quick build summary in case you want to try it out.  Runes - I a bit of a mixed build.  Armor pen/mana regen per level/magic resist per level (then way I play him, I'm generally only going to get hit at best with ranged magic early) - for quints, I have 2 Max health + 1 armor pen. I'm taking flash + tp (tp isn't recommended in most guides, but I find it to be a huge adv for how I'm playing him). 

The build is fairly similar to an AD player that likes crits (imagine that) - brawlers + 2 pots.  Then avarice blade + boots of speed... build those into.. actually screw it.  I'm pretty much following the guide here (but I differ on masteries/runes a little) http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/two-shotted-down-laning-amp-jungling-98960

Anyway... the playstyle is simple - immediately offer to cover top or mid before the game starts.  Top is preferable as the nukes are generally less - even if you are laned vs 2.  Your main goal early is a little harass if you are against 1.  If you are lucky enough to get a crit early, this generally makes whoever you are fighting a little nervous.  So, if I find them even a smidge squishy, I'll focus on using my q on them. Otherwise, I'm using it to last hit for the extra gold.  Do not, even for a second, care if you are getting pushed back to your tower.  Just relax and work the cs or smack down a quick q on the enemy.  If you are f-d up or are out of mana, stick it out for a bit, but then gate home and TP back if you need to.  I try to find a good balance between AAing the creeps if I'm planning on bailing or just last hitting.  I find its best if I'm planning on getting out of there to do a quick push on the creeps as possible and based on who's there.  Anyway, patience is all that matters.  I generally wear down whoever is near me quick enough so that they don't overly push.

Anyway, by about mid game, as long as you have solid map awareness, you are easily using your ult to assist on kills or tower saves/dives.  If you don't have good map awareness, his ult is completely wasted on you, imo.  Anyway, you are great for team battles and the 1 or 2 you were fighting are probably a bit nervous about your dmg output, but no one else is (eg you can likely kill a carry in 3-7 hits (and you can almost always land 3 with his speed burst).  His ult is AMAZING for farming large creep waves when you are elsewhere.  With the high dmg output, while its still nice to have your ult for fights, you don't need it for secure kills.  And with TP, you could ult a full lane full of creeps (for money) and tp to the other side to work it.  Eg- you instantly are up 300-500 gold or w/e it is.  Anyway, nice easy money farming from a distance.  

Late game, you are a beast with this build.  Most carries die with 1 or 2 shots.  And you have a speed bonus and can flash if needed to instantly land those 2 (all you need is 1 AA and 1 q... that' how much dmg is output against a carry in most cases).

Anyway, I find him to be a lot of fun.  And he's rough to counter early game using my playstyle.  Even if you manage to get me to run to base, I'm tping right back there for the xp/gold/defence.  And at least 5 min have gone by before you even have a chance of pulling that off with how I'm playing him (eg cautious early).

So, lots of fun - recommend giving him a go if you haven't and try to AD route. 

OK - so my wife is out of town this weekend, so I expect to be playing up a storm... mayhaps I'll finally get off my arse and play some ranked.  I feel like I'm decent enough with 2 tanks, 1 AD, 3 AP, and I could jungle if I had to, but I probably shouldn't as its certainly not my strongest suit.  I really need to play against some decent competition with my GP to see how I'm doing with that in reality.  I certainly feel like I'm playing well, but its only been a few games against humans now - and while I did great in each of those games, could just be some subpar folks I was up against.

I'm going to pick up a 3 day IP boost methinks and start going at it when I get home from work tonight.  For whatever reason, I'm starting to obsess on having some ridiculous crit runes just to goof of in normal games.  I love GP as it is for crits, but stacking some more dmg ontop of those crits or additional armor pen sounds like a hoot.  Feel like I've got a pretty good balance with my runes already (but I think I could drop my MR per level runes and replace with something).  Anyway, must get more IP for that nonsense. 

I watched a stream from a tournament a while back - it was CLG vs our old Demigod bro wallstop and his team.  Anyway, CLG chose some interesting characters working towards a specific strategy it seemed.  They had all ranged folks and a jungle trundle.  Seemed like the point was to get trundle to use his slow while all of the ranged folks would pick apart someone - either in a gank or a defensive move (for defense they'd be on the run, trundle would slow, then all of the ranged folks could nuke for a few seconds and keep running or w/e.  Anyway, looking forward to see some more strategies. 

Re: that link to a stream I posted (http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/stream/wickd-86) - one - the guy that you hear jibbering is a total goof, but also quite entertaining.  He's like a younger peterdumptruck with more profanity - so fair warning there.  Anyway, I really like the meta game I observed being played by his team. 

Some of the stuff I learned - this guy is really good at the logic around farming creeps and creep placement.  For instance, all of the creep waves come out over time.  He'd slowly last hit, not really pushing the troops along.  He's excellent at snagging a ton of gold the way he plays.  The advanced part was how he'd time moving up the creep waves. He seemed like he was spot on for getting large waves of his troops grouped together to work over the towers or enable him to dive with substantially reduced risk.  Gave me something to try to work on and my CS has been going up as a result.

The other thing was about the meta game of their team.  First, just about everyone in normal games does something I consider completely idiotic.  They tend to force grouping up MUCH earlier than is necessary.  This ends the farming phase and can cripple your team if you don't land kills etc.  Now what this guy and his team would do is work the lanes substantially longer than most games.  His team would ask for help if it was needed and if not, then he'd just do his thing or they'd tell him its ok - go back to farming.  This means he'd be MUCH more powerful with equipment before the battles really began.  Anyway, they focused a bit more on protecting their outer mid tower by having 2-3 folks nearby while 2-3 would continue to farm, even after pushing the towers.  And with good creep management, most of the time there would be a wave available to farm in relative safety or complete safety if you dropped a ward.  Playing this way kept the enemy from grouping up for sometime as they'd want to react to the folks still in lane, etc.

Other thing I hate - idiots deciding its time to go into a major battle vs 5 while someone is off pushing a lane... only to then bitch about that other guy being in a lane.  It's pretty obvious before you initiate a combat if the whole team isn't there... that's a hint to not go into a 5v5 unless someone is back dooring.  The guys in the stream I mentioned kept just enough resistance up mid so that there would be enough time for everyone to rush mid to support if they needed to.  But again, that was accomplished by 2 folks sacrificing some CS for the rest of the team and defending. 

Anyway, random blahblah over for now.

heh - hedgie and his buddy steve are beginning their night of drinking and playing.