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Published on August 17, 2011 By pacov In PC Gaming

So, during the (12 day or so) downtime with the MP servers, I decided to give LoL another go and have been enjoying myself.  I'm glad DG is back up and running, but the break was enough for me to try another competitive DoTa style game and start to enjoy it.  This thread isn't about bashing DG or any nonsense (so don't ffs).  Its simply a place for those of us that play or have played DG and now play LoL as a main or occasionally to discuss the game and keep in touch. 

So - chime in here if you have been playing LoL with your experiences or whatever you want to chat about.

 

I'll get us started.  I've been enjoying the F2P aspect of LoL quite a bit.  Remember WAAAAYYYY back when favor points in DG meant something?  Eg - remember playing games and looking forward to unlocking a favor item you wanted to try out?  It's like that all the time with LoL (well, it will be for quite some time anyway).  You get IP (favor points) for every game you play.  You can shell out some money if you really want to buy all of the characters, etc (the temptation is always there for the quick win), but you can also just play for fun and earn enough IP to unlock a new char, etc.  It's been very satisfying for me slowly earn enough IP to try out a new character, etc.

As it stands, I'm ok with 3 characters (card guy, silv, and viking pants - there are so many char it takes awhile to learn all the names).  I'm ok early, decent mid game, and utter SHITE late game with my characters.  It seems very diff from DG in that respect (if we are kicking ass early/mid, you can't harass like a god late game - that's gotten me killed more than a few times).  There are ALOT of reasonable builds (from what I can tell).  I started by trying out many diff char vs ai to learn them (that's why I'm like level 12 with "13 wins" or so).  Then I learned you get more IP from playing against humans, so I just switched up.

Anyway, I think the game is fun now and I'm looking forward to the new domination mode (it's a Demigod knock off imo) that is essentially holding points to get bonuses from what I understand.  Hearing about that mode is pretty much exactly why I started playing.  Oh, and pretty damn close to 100% of games end because another team beat you - not because someone dropped. 

Anyway, I'm going thru a learning curve.  I play with folks that are "experienced" and I often think they are retarded after my impressive 40 games or so (vs their 500+ games).  The strats often sound idiotic to me.  But that said, I fell into line in a game with jon, paint, obi, and 2 of jon's clan mates tonight and we scored a win when i thought we were done.  My biggest weakness (I think anyway) is not knowing what folks can do with their characters... I think there are like 70 char... as a new player, you have NO IDEA what each char can do until you play them or play against them enough... and that will take some time.  Anyway, I'm pacov on LoL if you play and want to add me as a friend.  I'm not exactly good, but I probably won't lose you the game at this point.  We should organize some LoL games and some DG games.  Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you.


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on Nov 08, 2011

Right now I have crappy runes P: Hence why blue still kills me right now still at level 1 without a good leash (I know with proper T3 armor runes he can do blue without a leash np as long as he doesn't get invaded). 

 

Red: 

Probably something like 3 or 4 Ar Pen Marks + AS for the rest. Right now I have 2 T1 Ar Pen + 4 T3 AS

Yellow:

I have a set of 6 T3 Armor + 1 T2 Armor. Will be full T3 Armors.  Right now I'm compensating with a few extra armor defense masteries.

Blue:

Flat T1 MR. Will probably become MR/level since MR isn't too useful for the first few levels of jungling, and it breaks even at 6. 

 

2 HP Quints (will become 2 Ar Pen + 1 Armor Quint which lets his shield last one extra hit at level 2). 

 

Masteries: 9/2/10 atm. Will probably end up being something like 9/5/16 or the standard 9/0/21. 

 

Regarding, 9/0/21, I don't feel like cooldown reduction is "as" powerful on Skarner with his passive. Smite's CD feels pretty low as it is with the mastery point in it (and I don't really feel like it's not up enough), though that is partially because I'm not really doing any counter-jungling yet. 

Flash is great and all, and -15% reduction on its CD is very powerful though plus the +6% CDR. All in all, that is probably be better than 1% dodge + 6 Armor. 

Depending on how significant the flash nerfs are, I may do 9/0/21 until then, then once they nerf flash, do 9/5/16, (get Ghost). 

 

Currently I'm going

 

Q > E > Q > W > Q > R > Q > W > Q ... you get the point.

 

It's more common to see Q > W > Q > E though because E is useless for ganking (stopping to use the ability is usually a net loss of damage because it's less than an autoattack unless they have crazy amounts of armor but 0 MR). However, E helps me with jungling a ton with bad runes, since E > Q > E kills the wraith camp and heals you more than it hurts you. 

 

It's just Q > E > Q > W has no ganking capacity "at all" until level 4. Not that Skarner's ganks are anything to brag about until 6 anyway. 

 

Items I'm doing standard Cloth Armor + 5 Pots > Vampire > Boots > Wriggles > Sheen > Mercs > Zeal > Phange > Trinity Force > whatever depending on opponents and my team comp (Wit's End + Warmogs is usually in there somewhere. Banshees against lots of Magic. Hexdrinker against Karthus, etc).

Until you get Sheen, Skarner's damage output can be kinda weak. He explods once you do get it. However, once you get Trinity Force I find I can pretty much kill anyone 1v1 unless they are more farmed than me. 

 

For saintvicious, his livestream (when its up) is here: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/streams

on Nov 08, 2011

Hi there,

 

Long time lurker here who happens to love to play LOL. I'm sick of solo queue and was hoping to build up a few people to play with. I generally tank or support, but can play what is needed. I usually play normals, because solo ranked is just awful, but if we had a decent group of people I think we could rock ranked. I have played over 1000 games at this point so I have a decent amount of experience.

Feel free to add me!

Username: The Dude II

 

 

on Nov 08, 2011

I'll add ya.  Add pacov in case I forget. 

re: flash being nerfed, I'd suggest getting a better feel for ghost or what have you.  I like the changes they are suggesting, though.  It's just like blood of the fallen in dg.  It usually makes sense to choose it.  Hopefully after the change up, they will hit their desired goal of having folks choose other items with more frequency. 

I finally played some twistedtree line on some crappy alt account.  I could see myself enjoying playing on that map... not sure if I will again, but I see the potential anyway.  I like the simple lane design with as many crazy jungle creatures out there.  You can look like you are ganking and then just head off to kill some jungle critters while they are still feeling like they might get ganked. 

OK - so back to my ranked game - it showed up as ranked(unranked) if you look at the picture.  Anyone have any clue when I start playing "true ranked" when I choose ranked matches.  I saw one guy with only 1 game and an elo rating... while everyone else on my team had 1 game and no elo.  Just curious if anyone knows how long until I'd get an elo.  Thanks.

on Nov 08, 2011

Cool! I'm quite active so I will be on tonight I'm sure.

 

I actually started LOL on Twisted Treeline. The problem with it for me is that you are fairly limited in which champs you will have success with. Basically you have to play tanky/dps or play very passively in my experience. I had some fun with it, but I feel that SR offers more gameplay possibilities. Also, if you have one bad player you have absolutely no chance of winning. In SR it is a little more forgiving.

With ranked, you have to play 10 games (called placement matches) before you have an official ELO. The reason you see people with a ranking with fewer than 10 games is that if they have a rating of 1250+, it will display by default. If after 10 games you still have 1250+ ELO then it will display it and be your official rank. Hope that makes sense.

 

 

on Nov 08, 2011

Cool - I'll most likely be playing some tonight, so hopefully I'll catch you.

AragornV
With ranked, you have to play 10 games (called placement matches) before you have an official ELO. The reason you see people with a ranking with fewer than 10 games is that if they have a rating of 1250+, it will display by default. If after 10 games you still have 1250+ ELO then it will display it and be your official rank. Hope that makes sense.

I don't quite understand, though.  I think I get this at least:  you are saying that I have to play 10 games before I get an elo... so you answered my main question.  What I don't get is that how a person with 1250+ can only have 1 game.  Is it some sort of carry over from when they last played (prior to a stat reset or something)?  Are you saying if I just destroy a team and get like 30 kills and 0 deaths, that I'd start showing up as 1250+ before I complete my 10 games?  Thanks.

on Nov 08, 2011

The point swings on those first few games are much larger than later ones.  It's how you get stuck in elo hell actually... If your initial ranked games are with feeder teams, you need dozens to make up for the several hundred points you've been dropped.

 

Since you start at 1200, 1250+ is a piece of cake, one victory gets you there.

on Nov 08, 2011


I don't quite understand, though.  I think I get this at least:  you are saying that I have to play 10 games before I get an elo... so you answered my main question.  What I don't get is that how a person with 1250+ can only have 1 game.  Is it some sort of carry over from when they last played (prior to a stat reset or something)?  Are you saying if I just destroy a team and get like 30 kills and 0 deaths, that I'd start showing up as 1250+ before I complete my 10 games?  Thanks.

Yes, that is correct re:main question

If you have a 1250+ ranking, it will always be displayed in game, regardless if you have played 1 game or 1000. (however, it will still show unranked in your profile until the 10 game threshold) I'm not really sure why, but this was true before the reset. I'm guessing it may just be lazy coding that it displays before you have an official rank, or is used to give you an idea of what ELO you are going to hit by the end of the 10 games.

You start at a certain ELO depending on if you had any previous ELO standing or are starting fresh. This number will be close to 1250 so that is how in only a few games you could technically reach that amount. Games will be +/- 40-50 ELO for the first 10 games and steadily decrease from there.

on Nov 08, 2011

We should definitely put together some kind of team for the new Ranked Team feature that is supposed to be up soon.  That means identifying the people who actually want to get into organized ranked play though.

In other ranked news, I have currently lost my last 9 ranked games and 11 of the last 12.  I've dropped from a gold rating to bronze.  Its pretty cool.  Just idiot team after idiot team against teams that are actually quite competent.  Playing on a badly organized team against a team that has not only the dragon on the timer but both blues, both reds, and baron on a timer is pretty not fun. 

on Nov 08, 2011

Krazikarl
We should definitely put together some kind of team for the new Ranked Team feature that is supposed to be up soon. That means identifying the people who actually want to get into organized ranked play though.

I'm game and feel like i can do my part

on Nov 08, 2011

In other news, I've now lost 13 straight ranked games.  Only 1 was close.

on Nov 08, 2011

darkliath is the one girl that I know that played Demigod - she moved over to LoL.  She just posted this in vent.

I'm having an annoying night as well... just lost an easy win because of a jackass yi.  Oh well.  Funny thing was I'm not sure he knew he was a troll... oh well.  Another argument for forming a team or 2.

on Nov 08, 2011

LOL,

glad to see im not the only one recently facepalming. I know Im not that good but Im growing sick of being a tank for teams who rather bitch about how I tank and die.

on Nov 08, 2011

Sleepy is the pacov - got to play a couple games with aragorn though.  Off to bed.  Night folks!

on Nov 09, 2011

Try Shen, then you can also watch them suicide after your perfect rescue, or run away from the free kill they were just handed on a silver platter, followed by a taunt if they suck unbelievably and still can't kill it...

on Nov 09, 2011

psychoak
Try Shen, then you can also watch them suicide after your perfect rescue, or run away from the free kill they were just handed on a silver platter, followed by a taunt if they suck unbelievably and still can't kill it...

I quit playing Shen b/c of that right there.

Currently Im getting a bad case of emo rage when I play Mr. Angry Tree.

I'll slap down my ult in a team fight or when someone gets ganked and im near by, they proceed to move out of it. Fight till they die. And then I die.

And same for Malphite's ult. I use it...and then everyone runs away.

 

Then they have the nerve to tell me that im feeding/sucking...ungrateful people I tell you. Didnt see them pick a tanky toon when they auto locked their choice.

 

Oh wells. I'll just keep on trucking.

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