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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Sep 06, 2012

Riot confirmed that they have coded it so that they can now support up to 20 mastery pages.  Its apparently going into load testing this week.  Not sure if it will be a freebie or something you have to buy.  Big win for me at any rate.  That's the one thing I constantly have to make changes to as I apparently have alot of variations to my mastery builds per character... about time.  Anyway, no eta on when we'd get this, etc, but it is being worked on.

on Sep 06, 2012

So...I haven't tried ranked because I only play Kassadin pretty much, although if Malphite isn't banned I guess I can get above the hopeless newb bar, and I Taric without getting too stressed out sometimes.  What do you guys think, should I abandon all hope or just play a lot with the mindset of "it can't hurt"?

Hmmm yeah I have the skills of a badger in a stone cold outhouse.  I'm doomed to suffer in junkyard.  To the extreme!

on Sep 06, 2012

trying out syndra on pbe now..

on Sep 06, 2012

syndra = wow.  The mechanics for her abilities will prove to be very interesting methinks.  Potential to be a douche like blitz, an ability that can push away some one that is trying to gank you.. and some pretty good dmg output.  Might have to pick this one up..

 

So...I haven't tried ranked because I only play Kassadin pretty much, although if Malphite isn't banned I guess I can get above the hopeless newb bar, and I Taric without getting too stressed out sometimes. What do you guys think, should I abandon all hope or just play a lot with the mindset of "it can't hurt"?

Hmmm yeah I have the skills of a badger in a stone cold outhouse. I'm doomed to suffer in junkyard. To the extreme!

A couple of thoughts about ranked - 1 - this season is just about done and stats will reset soon.  It's probably a good time to try out ranked if you have not yet because you'll pretty much to starting from scratch and will have more experience whenever that reset takes place. 

the downside with ranked - you 1st 10 games are super important for how you place (games count for more elo during those games).  So, if you blow it, you'll drop quite a bit.  If you do well, you'll be in 1500-1600 range after 10 games or so.  Personally, I'd say just play it if you want to try it out.  I'm really only saying that because the stat reset will be soon.

You need to have more champs that you can count on methinks.  For instance, tarics a great go-to support.  But he's also picked quite a bit nowadays.  So, you'd need an alternative to him.  Personally, I think its good to be at least 3 deep per role - eg have 3 characters for each role and be able to play those well. 

BEFORE you start a ranked game, have a role in mind that you'd like to play.  Then indicate in chat that you'd like a particular role.  Or if you are awful at a particular role, indicate what that role is.  It's best if you sound like you are asking instead of insisting.  Anyway, blahblahblah done for now.

on Sep 06, 2012

Bryff, you were told to try out ranked because the stats reset and you have nothing to lose by trying it out.  This is true, but what you should consider is that you will have people on your team who are really hoping to do well in their placement matches because they want to get to a certain rank before the season ends.  They will not feel very good about having a person who only knows how to play three champs (1 a very common ban, the other a very common pick) on their team, so just keep that in mind.

Ask whoever is telling you to try it out if they want to queue up with you some time, and their answer will tell you if you're ready to play ranked.

on Sep 07, 2012

People around 1200 won't care that much - you have to get to 1520 to get any kind of real reward, and people at 1200 can't really be counting on getting that high.

But yes, you should learn more champs for ranked.  Solo queue ranked is all about being reasonably good at ~10-15 champs.

on Sep 07, 2012

Embarrassing first game with the group, even if we did win. I'm more used to solo queue and blind pick, so choosing a champ based on what I'm facing isn't something I'm very good at. Oh well

on Sep 07, 2012

Krazikarl
you should learn more champs for ranked.

3 deep per role is solid.  If you are super aggressive, get someone to duo queue with that you play well with.  If you and pete have good chemistry, ask him to duo with you.  I'm sure he would.

Had fun games tonight.  Thanks everyone for them.  Unless I forget, I have a great video of my telling pete to do something stupid (dumb pacov thinks it is smart) and him dying because my idea was dumb as shite.  I'd wager the audio in game is entertaining.  Anyway, thanks for the games and reminding me why I like lol so much.  Night!

edit - lou - don't feel bad at all.  I'm personally just trying to figure out how you play, what you do well, etc, and then will try to help you get better.  No big deal at all.  Here's a vid from me playing akali top vs darius to give you an idea - this was like 1-3 months ago.  So, you are in good company.  Check my stats at the beginning.

on Sep 07, 2012

After well over a year of no LoL and lots of HoN I am totally incapable of playing LoL. The speed of the game is slow and boring with too much laning and its almost impossible to kill a full health champ alone. Plus you never get the same feeling of 1v3 with Nomad where it was never in doubt that there would be a massacre.

on Sep 07, 2012

Part of it is that I need to put more time in. With GW going on, I've only been playing a game every once in a while, and I could literally feel how off my timing was, like an unfortunate rash. Either that, or I'm stuck way down in the low elo, where I'm slightly better than every other noob.

on Sep 07, 2012

I feel that I am at least a high-end mediocre player, but I cannot get my ELO to budge at all from its current 1059...

oh well

on Sep 07, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
but I cannot get my ELO to budge at all from its current 1059...

well, the stat reset should help you out then.  Just nail your 1st 10 games and you'll be out of that mess.  Honestly, the lower your elo, the more challenging I think games would be (for shitty reasons).  Sure, it will likely be easier games for you to win your lane, etc, but then there's the rest of your derp partrol team.  It's nice to actually lose because you were outplayed instead of someone just derping up a storm.  Hopefully I'll finish leveling up one of my alts soon (seems like its taking forever... not that I'm playing on it ton).  I think I'll likely just play ranked exclusively on that and see how I fare.

on Sep 07, 2012

Out of my ranked losses, I think only ONE of them was because we were outplayed. (the rest were all stupid derp-mode mistake-making games[I am not free of blame]) I actually very rarely lose my lane, but it still happens...

 

I don't care too much, though, else I would have more games put in.

on Sep 07, 2012

the 13th of October is the end of season 2 I think.

I found this: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=766559&page=2

But who knows if its the truth  

on Sep 07, 2012

Who does AP teemo on dominion anyway

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