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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Dec 18, 2012

WTF, 10 minute log in queue.  So lame.

on Dec 18, 2012

Single again time for more league! 

on Dec 19, 2012

pacov's exciting lol thoughts.  I think I'll rant for a wee bit and then head off to bed. 

K - so you folks know I've been on a solo top binge for quite some time now.  Historically, I go all in on some role and then get bored of it after 2-3 weeks and then move onto another role and play it over and over.  I've been fixated on solo top for about 1-2 months now.  So, flaming pacov aside, here's what I do best in top.  Jayce, Shen, Malphite.  I'm a very competent jayce (fight me top lane sucka) and I know how to play the tank/save/initiate roles just fine.  I have other solo tops, but those are my best.  Anyway, I get that shen/malph don't get to carry - they get to win for your teammates.  Jayce, on the other hand, doesn't add a hell of a lot compared to other characters.  So, I have a character that I will farm well and do great with, but can only continue the slowball.  Other characters can carry - and that's what I'm focusing on now.  Carrying from top lane. 

I'm currently looking at kah'zix.  Now, I was unimpressed with him until the other day when I ended up laning against one that maxed his w (ranged poke/heal).  I won my lane, but was very surprised at his burst damage from just a w.  Anyway, every time I've had him top lane, I've played against a ranged character.  Thing I've noted, all of those ranged shits get a little nervous once they've been hit by my w and then start to play a bit different.  Anyway, here's how I'm playing him:

True ad assassin - same runes as an adc.  For masteries, I build ad + the extra health in def.  I get the cd bonus on the ad tree btw.  Skill order: start q, max w 1st, 1 point e, r when its up, ten max q over e. For evolution, I take my w, then my e, then my r.  Build - flask + 2 wards - gives me staying power if I can farm ok.  Then the armor pen component of black cleaver.  Core is that + boots + dorian's blade.  Anyway, you build bc, then I prefer the cdr boots + homeguard (side note - homeguard is amazing for top lane - best if running tp, but amazing for top.  You get back to lane super quick and its great if you know you are going to be up against a ranged and taking a ton of dmg).  The rest is up to you, but mostly dmg/assassin items.

Playstyle is semi passive at the start.  Farm as best you can.  Pop in and out for cs as appropriate and be willing to take a hit if needed.  At level 2, you can start to poke with w, but that drains your mana pretty quickly, so make every shot count.  Unless your opponent is dumb, you are in a waiting game until you hit 6 and get your 1st evo of w.  That makes it so its really, really, difficult to miss your w as its in a cone.  Harass as you like, but keep an eye on your mana.  His ult is 100 mana (pricy imo), so if you are thinking of going for a kill, keep in mind all of your mana costs.  Anyway, back as appropriate.  He is incredibly strong top  for 1 specific reason, though.  If you play like I do, you aren't hopping around except to escape a jungle gank early.  Your only real aggression will mostly be your w.  This means they can't calculate the damage from your other abilities... and that means with ignite + flash + ult + gap closer + dmg = ouch.  And you don't really get to reveal your true dmg output until you are ready to go to town.

Once team fights start, you actually have 2 options.  You an initiate like a crazy shit or you can play like a proper assassin.  This is actually really great imo.  He can ult to go invisible, then initiate with a jump or flash, etc.  If you get a kill with his hop, its cd is reset like trist.  So its actually possible to hop in and pick off a target and hop out.  it's actually reasonably easy to play him like an assassin.  If you choose to be mr initiate, well, you are likely going to die - BUT you can very likely absorb quite a bit of dmg and abilities.  If you are fortunate enough to have someone like an amumu follow your initiate up... well, quite deadly.  Anyway, if I had my druthers, I'd always have either amumu or malphite as a jungle if I go kha top.  really, really good potential.

Bottom line - I feel like he's a character that can actually carry and initiate and even single target pick off in a group.  Probably an excellent pick if you have a tanking jungler or 1 like malph amumu. 

on Dec 19, 2012

I'm not sure why I never checked this game out before.

I just did and it's a good time.  I need to read through more basic info soon - like some deeper info on the item system - but I've played a few bot matches and a 5 v. AI and it has been a blast.

 

Thanks for the thread.

on Dec 19, 2012

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2917107

We’re excited to announce a very special event this Snowdown. This holiday season we’ll be cracking open the Legacy Skins Vault and un-retiring 42 of your old favorites for a limited time. These Legacy Skins will be available in the League of Legends store at a cheer-inducing 50% off from now until January 6. And remember, holiday gifting is available through December 26, so if you were looking for a particularly sentimental gift for that special summoner in your life, Legacy Skins carry an extra bit of novelty.
After the sale these skins will be going back on ice for the foreseeable future, so don’t miss this chance to add some vintage flavor to your roster. When will they return? Nobody knows – that’s the point of a Legacy Skin!
Head on over to the store to check out these Legacy Skins before they go back into the vault on January 6. There are a lot of them, so we’ve taken the liberty of listing them in alphabetical order below:

  • Alien Invader Heimerdinger
  • Angler Jax
  • Annie In Wonderland
  • Badger Teemo
  • Blacksmith Poppy
  • Butcher Urgot
  • Crimson Akali
  • Desert Trooper Garen
  • Dragon Knight Mordekaiser
  • Emerald Taric
  • Feral Warwick
  • Firefighter Tristana
  • Frozen Shen
  • Hextech Sion
  • Highland Tryndamere
  • Kingpin Twitch
  • Leopard Nidalee
  • Masquerade Evelynn
  • Matador Alistar
  • Mr. Mundoverse
  • Nightmare Cho'Gath
  • Nottingham Ezreal
  • Noxus Poppy
  • Phantom Karthus
  • Pharaoh Amumu
  • Professor Ryze
  • Red Baron Corki
  • Red Riding Annie
  • Safari Caitlyn
  • Sasquatch Nunu
  • Scuba Gragas
  • Shamrock Malphite
  • Sonoran Kog'Maw
  • Spectacular Sivir
  • Swamp Master Kennen
  • The Magnificent Twisted Fate
  • Time Machine Zilean
  • Toxic Dr. Mundo
  • Unmasked Kayle
  • Vizier Malzahar
  • Workshop Shaco
  • Yellow Jacket Shen
on Dec 19, 2012

Also, Vi and her bundle (the skin looks awful imo) are live as of this moment.

on Dec 19, 2012

I'm going to make a much bigger effort to be less a dick in the future when I'm pissed off.  Sorry, Karl.  I was being an unbelievable shit tonight and very, very rude. And sorry for the noise pollution to anyone watching/in the voice chat.... quite awful..

Mostly unrelated side note - Vlad- can we talk about your pc a little.  Do you remember a time when you started getting more bug splats?  Patch related, etc?  I know in recent history (last 2-3 months tops) you've had more.. or so I think.  I'm curious if you changed anything on your pc in the last 5 months, if you get instability on other programs, and what you've tried to do to fix the problem.  I think you did a full reinstall of lol, right?  Do you always crash the 1st game of does it take a few?

on Dec 19, 2012

It only starting happening in the past 3 or so months. The bugsplat only happens with league, but Skype occasionally gives me problems as well. It "might" be my comps power source, as I have noticed that it is loose? or something.

on Dec 19, 2012

OMG_Shiro
It only starting happening in the past 3 or so months. The bugsplat only happens with league, but Skype occasionally gives me problems as well. It "might" be my comps power source, as I have noticed that it is loose? or something.

provide more details if possible... I've built more than a few pc's and might be able to help you out.  What do you mean when you say your power source is "loose?"  What does skype do when it gives you problems?   If the problem is power supply related, I can probably help you find a cheap replacement and install it even if you know buttkiss about pcs. 

edit - did you do a full reinstall of lol? Would you do that if you have not?

on Dec 19, 2012

I'll have to wait till later to give you more details. I don't know exactly how to say it, but my mouse, keyboard and moniter would not connect to my tower one day. I was told it was because my power source was loose. Skype sometimes closes and refuses to open back up until I restart my computer. I did a repair of LoL. If the problems persist I will probably try a clean install.

on Dec 20, 2012

OMG_Shiro
I did a repair of LoL. If the problems persist I will probably try a clean install.

I think its safe to say your problem will continue to persist.  If you have a little time, I'd recommend trying that fresh install. 

That whole power source is loose thing sounds like crazy talk. 

re: your mouse/keyboard/monitor not connecting - I take it they were all firmly plugged in, but simply did not work.  That sound right?  The rest of the computer powered up, though?  eg you pressed the power on button and stuff happened - just no keyboard/mouse/monitor?  That sort of thing sounds more like motherboard failure... but perhaps I'm missing some details.  Do you know what was done to make your keyboard/mouse/monitor work again?

on Dec 20, 2012

For those that haven't read it yet, riot is changing their ip/rp structuring a bit.

Going forward, new champs will be 7800 ip for the 1st week and then drop to 6300 ip.  Both will still be 975 RP though.  They are doing this to hopefully reduce the number of early adopters of champs when they are released so that folks don't queue dodge if they don't get their champ, etc.  Apparently that happens a bunch. 

They reduced the following to 4800 ip - ez, vlad, renek, nocturn, lee sin, brand, and vayne.

They will be a structure now in place to automatically reduce the ip cost of the oldest 6300 ip champ to 4800 ip/880 rp.

If you bought any of the champs that have been reduced at full price in the past 2 weeks, you'll get a refund.

edit - oh and all of these changes are live now.  Not sure if they changed vi's price to 7800 or if they are just leaving her as is.

on Dec 20, 2012

For Karl:

http://elohell.net/chill/190912

on Dec 20, 2012

Off to bed - here are the latest changes on pbe

 

Alistar:

Move speed from 325 to 330.

Headbutt from 600 range to 650

Annie:

Disintegrate mana from 60/70/80/90/100 to 60/65/70/75/80

Molten shield duration from 8 seconds to 6 seconds

Molten shield cooldown from 16 seconds to 10 seconds

Diana:

Lunar Rush range from 900 to 825. [Amendment: change was 750 -> 825]

Pale cascade damage from 20/34/48/62/76 to 20/35/50/65/80

Pale cascade shield duration from 4 seconds to 5 seconds

Evelynn:

Health from 470 (+90/level) to 462 (+82/level)

Hate spike ratio from (+.45 AD) (+.45 AP) to (+.4 AD) (+.4AP)

Ravage damage from 35/60/85/110/135 to 35/55/75/95/115

Jarvan IV:

Reworded Golden Aegis tooltip.

Nami:

Movespeed from 330 to 335

Aqua Prison cooldown from 16/14.5/13/11.5/10 to 14/13/12/11/10

Rengar:

Battle Roar Ferocity bonus changed from "Heals Rengar for 10% of his max health" to "Ferocity bonus: Rengar restores 0.8AD Health"*

Savagery attack speed bonus changed from 3 seconds to 4 seconds

Thrill of the hunt delay changed from 1.25 seconds to 1 second

Bonetooth Necklace now grants +5 Attack Damage

Riven:

Health regen per 5 from 9.5 to 4.5

Blade of the Exile cooldown from 75/60/45 to 110/85/50

Valor shield strength from 60/90/120/150/180 to 70/100/130/160/190

Ryze:

Overload ratio from 6.5% of max mana to 6% of max mana

Overload mana cost from 60 flat to 60/65/70/75/80

Syndra:

Transcendent's now gives Unleashed Power a bonus: Range increased by 75

Scatter The Weak cooldown from 18/17/16/15/14 to 18/16.5/15/13.5/12

Talon:

Noxian Diplomacy bleed from 18/36/54/72/90 to 10/20/30/40/50

Shadow Assault damage from 120/190/260/85/100 to 120/170/220/85/100

Udyr:

Turtle stance shield from 60/95/130/165/200 to 60/100/140/180/220

Items:

Go to the website, there are far too many to list here.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22714-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-for-12-21-2012

 

 

So - good news - Udyr finally got that nerf that everyone has been demanding. 

You will also be happy to know that they have buffed black cleaver... you know.  league of cleavers n all that.

on Dec 21, 2012

Oh bloody joy. They are nerfing never gets played overnerfed Talon.

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