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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Apr 30, 2013

Totally stoked for all this stuff

login queue pls

on Apr 30, 2013

CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun
Totally stoked for all this stuff

login queue pls

yah - hopefully not too much of one.  I really hope they don't find any major issues and have to hotfix.  Would love to have the new champ come out sooner than later.  pacov predicts by Friday at this point.  Should be some fun gaming tonight though. 

dax - I hope you didn't mind some of my colorful commentary re: your pal that was adc for us in that one game yesterday.  I wouldn't have been complaining about him if he was in chat with us.  pacov = trying to be mindful of any douchebaggery as possible.

 

If folks are up for it, I think I'll want to play a decent amount of arams.  If we get enough for an in house, then cool, but if not, I'm looking forward to using the queue.

 

on Apr 30, 2013

CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun
Pacov

when have you been playing with StarrEzerath?

oh - he popped up my pal list and I gave him an invite the other day.  Then I deleted him after that game as I still didn't know who the heck he was or why he ended up on my pal list.  Really nice guy at any rate.  I weirdly just noticed this comment...

on Apr 30, 2013

also - SNAP - lissandra has been released already! 

also... I'm looking at you, hedgie, re: this...

also just released

and.. things not mentioned in the patch notes apparently

-Runaan's Hurricane price reduced by 300g (2750g to 2450g)

-Silence icon changed (not sure if this patch or last one)

-Trundle's W is Frozen Domain, not Frozen Kingdom

-Warmog's no longer in ARAM

-Having Biscuiteer mastery in ARAM gives you a Poro-Snax, in addition to the Biscuit

on Apr 30, 2013

In case you folks have not seen it yet, here's the promo vid riot made reL Freljord - pretty well done

and some easter eggs on the new map

 

 

So I just got done playing my 3rd or 4th howling abyss matchmaking game, and something cool (to me at least) just happened.

Don't know all the details, but It seems that if Ashe and Sejuani are on opposing teams, at some point in the game they get an indicator similar to "The Hunt" and In my game the enemy Ashe killed Sejuani and got this cool ass crown that floated above her head for the rest of the game.

On her Tool tip it said something like "Peace has been restored to Freljord and Ashe has been crowned Queen" (something like that).

Cool thing Riot added and I approve.

Edit: "It's not just in Howling Abyss, and it triggers with any two of Ashe, Sejuani and Lissandra." thanks to Program01 for that.

 

also - currently an issue with IP generation for SOME on the new map. 

Summoners,

We are currently investigating an issue where some Summoners have not been receiving IP. We are working to have this issue resolved as soon as possible.

Updates:

2:30 PM PDT - We are still investigating.

 

 

and last - jungle tutorial vid from a diamond level player - 30 + min.  Give a looksie if interested:  http://www.twitch.tv/sylfaen_/c/2225304

one tip I pulled from this re: jungling so far - don't be a dick and finish your camp if your team needs you.  More often than not, I'll be like fug you if I'm trying to clear a camp.  This guy goes on a lecture about how its pretty freaking douchey to do so... so I'm going to try not to do that sort of thing...

on Apr 30, 2013

doing the arams with swan

on Apr 30, 2013

not trolling cow in aram... no sir.

on May 01, 2013

and we broke 100 kills in our last super troll aram of the night.

on May 01, 2013

So - I played in the ARAM queue all night yesterday.  I experienced a total of ZERO dodged games.  It seems pretty clear to me that riot got it right - the queue with its dodge penalty + the option to reroll (and be able to reroll more often the more you play) was pretty spot on.  Literally going from a dodged game almost every single aram in customs to zero has me pretty impressed.  Side note - IP gains are OK for the queue.  40 IP for a really quick game.  Nearly 100 IP for a longer game.  Most games between 10-20 minutes.

I dig the new horn item.  It's really good for initiating or catching up and charges quickly. 

Let's see... we trolled the hell out of poor cow in 1 game.  He got to play lux and was doing really well.  We (zen) did (zen did) interesting things... I had a very special kayle build to "help out."  Something about aram inspires trolling - at least for me.

Anyway, my last game of the night was a ridiculous troll fest.  I got Zac.  On arams that guy has exceptionally high troll potential.  I'd catapult past the enemy team and run into their fountain, then act like I was going to head to the fountain (so they decide not to chase me), so I start hitting their base until someone has to come chase me... then I'd run into the fountain.  mr zac can just go flying past the enemy team if desired pretty easily.  Anyway, I think we all got into the spirit (even the other team after a bit) and we had a 100 + kill game.  We had the game won like 10 minutes or so and just fugged around for another 20 minutes.  Was a lot of fun.  Scroll towards the end of my last vid on the twitch stream if you want to see all the jackassery... there was alot. 

I don't expect that I'll maintain a high level of interest in ARAM, but mayhaps.  Looking forward to playing it again soon.  Really happy riot managed to fix alot of the annoying things about aram with the queue/reroll. 

 

edit - did anyone get to try out quinn after the changes?  Thoughts?

on May 01, 2013

@dax - before I forget, your buddy starsapphire or something like that popped onto my twitch chat last night.  The full message is somewhere in the stream (gl finding that btw), but the gist is that he said he's going out of town for a bit and hopes to catch you again once he's back. 

on May 01, 2013

for those interested in such things:

on May 01, 2013

Hehe

I'll answer your comments aimed at me in order.

I have accepted that pacov is a colorful person, and as such, playing with pacov leads to such interactions. Don't worry about it unless you hear me crying and saying something about sharp objects. :3

funny how you read things backwards

Okie doke, he told me that as well, but thanks for relaying that.

on May 01, 2013

CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun
funny how you read things backwards

nah - I was just looking for something a few pages back and saw that. 

Anywho... I think I might do some ARAM tonight - really, really, want to try out the reworked characters and lissandra though... also I'm guessing everyone and their mother is currently calling mid to try to play her... so that will be "fun"

on May 01, 2013

Lissandra is stupid

I don't know how to counterplay her...

aaaagh

you just see this claw coming and WHAM

you're dead...

on May 01, 2013

yeah - I've been trying to think through play and counter play.  For play, I'd think if you are smart you can easily evade most ganks.  You can also quickly move to farm wraiths, so you should have good cs.  I'm thinking start mana regen bead + 2 wards + pots.  Ward and farm.  I'd think she can trade ok before 6, but not 100% sure.  Just be smart with when you cast the claw thing so its up if you get ganked.  For counter, I'm not sure.  I'm initially thinking ranged poke from someone like grag would be safest and easiest to deal with.  Cass seems good for wrecking her pre 6.  I'm wondering about ryze.  She'd win the poke war pre 6, but his snare MIGHT prove useful for  locking her up on ganks pre 6 and you can build pretty tanky.  wukong might have a rough time early, but would be a better pick than her mid imo - and his ult would be good to keep her in place (I'd think). 

I don't know if any of you watched the diamond jungle coaching vid I posted the other day, but he ran WW and wukong mid.  That's a very strong, pretty much guaranteed locked down cc combo with likely more than enough dmg to crush any mid.  I'd like to try a combo like that sometime soon.  Anywho - hope I get to try her out soon.

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