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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jun 14, 2013

aw pacov and Rsk are OTP

on Jun 14, 2013

So me and the european dude played after pacov went to bed... interesting night haha... first game did decent as cait, but our kha jungle took every kill in the game almost... 2nd game he invites peter... peter dc's 10 minutes in and never reconnects... I'm playing my first game as aatrox and was 5-0 at some point... our whole team never made it to top once to try to give us the advantage, and european dude didn't really listen too well to me to come up top was busy "distracting them" as support janna... i mean it was fun because i learned and got fed as aatrox, but it was still annoying to lose that game. 

on Jun 14, 2013

You know, I had a really bad feeling when I saw my bud schyster go tp/ignite on fizz.  Did not disappoint. 

Not a lot of time to jibba jabber atm, but I'll pop in a wee bit later. 

on Jun 14, 2013

koskee is mr.swan?man if you are him we go for bot again and teach pacov how adc , for the profile of pacov and is style from demigod i´m sure he can be the best tank player in LOL not adc but tank i´ll never forget is rook in demigod neither games 2vs3 when i play with him we lost some 2vs3 but we win to 2vs3 just because is rook gg pacov, you will be forever a great teammate in defeat or victory

this how i play since demigod is my logg from my unit

NEVER SURRENDER - NEVER RETREAT - DIE IN HELL

GG pacov tsk swan and more.......

on Jun 14, 2013

heh, rui.  Rui had almost as many Demigod accounts as I did.  That's kind of impressive. 

OK - onto some blahblah re: games last night and things in general.  I'd love it if folks were a smidge more intelligent about taking secured kills when I adc.  The extra money is almost always better off in the adc's hands than the junglers/support.  This is all the more important if the adc's lane is not going exceedingly well.  As always, secure the kill if there's a chance of escape - funnel the kill to your adc if there is not.  Anything else is just weak play or trolling - take your pick. Good supports do this as do good junglers when possible.  I usually apologize in game if I take a kill that could have gone to the adc if it was locked down and feel bad for the misplay... I kind of think this is the correct attitude. 

Other stuff - holy crap am I sick of being in groups that require folks to play in specific roles.  I've felt like the past few nights I haven't been able to come up with a solid team that has a good deal of flexibility.  Then I feel like hunnybadger either went a little retarded or just decided being a dip is fun.  He decided that he only wanted to play top and proxy.  And he decided that he'd stick to this no matter what.... and he also decided to do this when we were in a 4v5 game.  A 4v5 game where I'm carrying with like 22 kills and 2 shotting riven.  So, he throws a game that could have been an easy win with only 4 of us (3 if you don't include hunny as you could not during any team fights)...

Gotta say, was a super annoying night of gaming, but it ended on a nice note with a win thanks to everyone's effort in the last game (where my pal schyster went fizz with tp/ignite... he goes to lane, he dies).  Everybody else got things done. 

On a less snippy note, I found an example of how to see your mmr on that site I linked a few posts back.  It appears to show if you are actively in a ranked game.  It might do the same for a normal game (if you are active), but I don't know.  Here's what I saw for schyster.  So, the next time you load up a ranked, maybe pull up the website to see your mmr. 

on Jun 14, 2013

saw a neat info graphic on aram's.  Take a look if interested.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9998/m5f.png

 

on Jun 14, 2013

Bronze I.

muahahaha

on Jun 14, 2013

wtf why my avatar dn´t show in post system?

on Jun 14, 2013

sorry but is the best avatar my country was founded by templar´s:)

 

on Jun 14, 2013

OK - onto some blahblah re: games last night and things in general. I'd love it if folks were a smidge more intelligent about taking secured kills when I adc. The extra money is almost always better off in the adc's hands than the junglers/support. This is all the more important if the adc's lane is not going exceedingly well. As always, secure the kill if there's a chance of escape - funnel the kill to your adc if there is not. Anything else is just weak play or trolling - take your pick.

Sure, but you need to realize that your interpretation of "guaranteed kill" is _extremely_ optimistic.  I've seen A LOT of "guaranteed kills" result in not kills, sometimes combined with deaths on our team.  This usually turns into "well, it was a guaranteed kill if...", but that "if" is a big deal that you forget about a lot of the time.

It is also generally not useful to complain about this so much in game.  First off all, your teammates generally don't appreciate being complained at for 5+ minutes because their interpretation of "guaranteed kill" is not the same as yours.  Also, I have seen a number of times when your support doesn't take the "guaranteed kill" when its there because you want it, and the kill gets away.  Presumably they do this because you have yelled at them in the past.  I've seen this multiple times with different supports.

To me, there is a bigger problem with kills getting away than kills going to the wrong person.  Most of the supports you play with should just take the kill if its there.

Also, if you want to worry about kills early in the game, don't rush boots3/static shiv on a low damage ADC.  It makes getting kills for anybody in your lane difficult, and it makes it especially difficult for you to get the kill.

on Jun 14, 2013

i dn´t care if is adc jungler mid or top if i need i kill as support dn´t care people say ks or not is a kill to the team i get the kill they get assist i never let them sacape if i can never and pacov know that, people think support dn´t need kill´s WRONG he need kill´s to all need kill´s to can carry all in team.

if we have a feed adc and lose the game who is fault?support omg all time or jungler but the fail is adc cause get all kill´s and dn´t got brain to carry.because that all need kill´s time to time of course not ks on porpose but get kill give moral to go front or get a better equipmnt etc.

on Jun 14, 2013

Krazikarl
Sure, but you need to realize that your interpretation of "guaranteed kill" is _extremely_ optimistic.

I feel like I should cycle through all of the things that clearly indicate if a kill is guaranteed... that would likely insult your intelligence.  Guaranteed means there's no way you miss the kill.  And these are typically guaranteed because a flash is down along with an escape if the champ has one.  If that crap is still up, then its not guaranteed.  If you see the enemy guy flash, you see them use their escape and all you need to do is let the adc hit the guy 1 one time when the adc is in range, you are either bad or trolling if you take the kill.  Guaranteed means its going to happen or extremely good odds the kill is going to happen (90% chance or higher). 

I'm fine with any complaints/critiques related to the things I'm trying out with ash.  But that said, high attack speed + slows + high move speed + an ash ult pretty much ensure a kill can get locked down... it just means that its also pretty easy to take a kill from her if you aren't paying attention to see that its secured. 

Anyway, there's plenty of times where a kill might not be secured.  Take it then.  But I do say things like X player flash and barrier are down... its not all that difficult to keep those things in mind and consider that the goal of a support/jungler when ganking a lane is to get the adc fed in this meta.  Obviously in a meta where an adc gets a No CS support that buys wards, etc, well... the overall strategy seems to have a bit to do with getting that particular role fed/farmed.  You help the adc get a kill you are doing amazing.  You help an adc get an assist, its still ok, but generally not as good (based on what's going on in the game). 

edit - rui - I disagree.  Supports should not be taking kills unless that's the only way to get the kill.  The entire bot lane meta is about getting the adc farmed up.  Kills certainly are a part of that farm money per se. 

oh - and of course I agree that if someone gets away because you are trying to let someone get a kill, you done screwed up.  Just a bit of understanding if its a secured kill or not.  You'll see good supports behaving this way the majority of the time.  Lock it down for the adc whenever possible. 

on Jun 14, 2013

Yes, I am swan.  Anyway... I happen to remember a game a couple days ago... i was support lux and pacov was jungle not... we had an orri deep in our jungle early with like 10 hp left and everybody just seemed to leave to give me the kill lol... 

on Jun 14, 2013

yes i was trying say that, i get the kill if is top mid adc or jungler,no ks,just if someone can´t get her i dn´t let her scape or i try he dn´t scape, normally i dn´t take kill´s,just if we need go in fight and i get a kill for any reason but normally i try lock the kill if the mate who come with me dn´t get her i get that was i trying to say pacov

on Jun 14, 2013

Yes, I am swan. Anyway... I happen to remember a game a couple days ago... i was support lux and pacov was jungle not... we had an orri deep in our jungle early with like 10 hp left and everybody just seemed to leave to give me the kill lol...

haha - I remember that.  quite retarded is my brain sometimes. 

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