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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jan 21, 2014

Good feedback and that's really helpful.  Thanks!

on Jan 21, 2014

That is some horrible luck pacov! You still will probably do better then I did in my placements. I went 3-7 and I can't really say there was much trolling at all in my games. Many games just went to 50+ minutes and my team couldn't close them out. 

on Jan 21, 2014

Where did you end up placing, cow?  Looks like plat V from lol king.  Anyway, at least you stayed in plat.  I'm thinking I need to crush it to stay in plat as I was just plat IV.

on Jan 21, 2014

Cow at least got bumped down to Gold I.  Pretty steep drop considering he was knocking on Diamond...

on Jan 21, 2014


Where did you end up placing, cow?  Looks like plat V from lol king.  Anyway, at least you stayed in plat.  I'm thinking I need to crush it to stay in plat as I was just plat IV.

I think that it is unlikely you would stay in Plat now even if you won out unless you had something really funny going on with your MMR.  As reference, Hunny went from Gold I to Silver I at 7-3 in quals, so I think you would be fortunate to only drop from Plat V from PlatIV by going 8-2.

Win order does seem to matter from what I've heard (might just be a rumor), but from what I've heard, the early games matter more, so no help to you there either.

on Jan 21, 2014

Where did you end up placing, cow?  Looks like plat V from lol king.  Anyway, at least you stayed in plat.  I'm thinking I need to crush it to stay in plat as I was just plat IV.

Cow got placed in Gold I but promoted in like 6 games.

on Jan 21, 2014

OK - so I reedited my vid to up its overall production value and to make it more fit for purpose.  My intro to the series is now a standalone vid.  I shot that from scratch and removed my previous intro completely.  I removed some of my snarky comments from the game footage vid and added a section at the end covering detailing why I think we lost the game, etc.  Think this 1st one is now done and I'll start working on the next one soonish.

Here's the short standalone intro vid

Here's the new final vid (uploading/processing now - should be live in about 30 min)

on Jan 22, 2014

I was placed into gold I with zero lp but went on a like 8 wins 1 loss streak and got back into plat. The crowd of people at gold I/plat V is pretty mixed. I have seen players as good as Diamond I and players as bad as Gold V in my recent matches. Lots of variations in people but games have been pretty balanced regardless. Its been fun playing ranked! 

on Jan 22, 2014

Glad you are a digging it again, cow, and grats on getting back up to plat so quickly!

So far I've played 3 of my placement matches.  I'll probably try to cut some video for game 2 tonight.  I'm planning on trying to knock out 2 more vids before I resume my placement matches atm.  Not sure if I'll be able to handle waiting so long.

Also, holy crap is it taking way too long to put vids together.  I must have wasted like 5 hours on the previous one... which is kind of stupid.  Don't really think I want to put anywhere near as much time into my other vids.  It takes time to review entire games along with twitch footage, analyze, and move along.  I'm thinking game 2 will be pretty easy to do, while game 3 will take awhile to make a vid... sigh.  We'll see if I just get fed up with it and move along...

on Jan 22, 2014

OK - vid 2 is done... kind of dreading doing vid 3 as I think about all the edits.  Hoping I was crazy, but I feel like I had a stupid number of very good plays.  So.. I'm prob crazy.  Anyway, vids uploading now.  Will post links later.  Hoping to get back to my placement matches in the next 2 days

Vid should be up in like 30-40 min.  Feedback appreciated. 

 

on Jan 23, 2014

Current game plan - finish game 3 vid - BLITZ through remaining 7 games.  Editing on game 3 will take some time...I pulled the clips tonight.. like 15 total plays to go through and add commentary.  Pretty exciting/fun game imo, though.  Anyway, hopefuly I can get through editing/publishing tomorrow and then get back to ranked placement.

 

From speaking with pals, a bunch placed in lower tiers then quickly promoted up due to mmr.  1 bud placed gold III with so so placement game outcome.  Then failed his promo to the next div twice.  Third time he was bumped to gold I (skipped gold II).  He said he played 11 total games to get moved to gold I.  He went as high as plat I in season 3 and ended season 3 at plat IV or V. 

Anyway, as someone who had to bust his ass to hit plat IV last season, I'm hoping the remaining games go better - but mostly I want to get them done.  Goal for this season is Diamond 5 min. 

on Jan 24, 2014

I watched your second video and I think you do a nice job with the editing and commentary. Looking forward to the rest. 

on Jan 24, 2014

Thanks!

Just about done with vid 3.  Going over finalizing. 

on Jan 24, 2014

also... here's the next game mode.

Just noticed it on the PBE, must have just been patched.

Riot's Post

"Hey guys!

The new Featured Gameplay Mode, Hexakill, is now enabled on PBE! Hexakill is a 6v6 game mode played on Summoner's Rift, with the classic ruleset that we're all familiar with. We’re excited to see what new meta and team comps you guys come up with!

Please let us know if you encounter any issues, particularly around champion selection and player invitation when getting into the game.

Current known issues: -The end of game screen may not properly handle all twelve players currently - this should be fixed in a later deploy

As always, let us know what you think!"

http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/c/gameplay/m2EOP2IM-hexakill-enabled-on-pbe[1]

 

EDIT: Fixed link

on Jan 24, 2014

Well, I am now 1-0 as mid in ranked this season.  Yeah Midwick.

Luckily the guy who insisted on jungling managed one single gank attempt that game.  Just the one in all lanes combined.  Which kind of meant that we exited the laning phase down 10 kills since they had a jungler who actually did things other than farming jungle.  But we were a better teamfighting team so we won in about 50 minutes.

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