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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Apr 05, 2012

Booo...

Saw this somewhere else:

  • If you tower dive two enemies alone, and get one kill, then die, you lost. You gained 300 gold. Your enemy gained 300 gold plus 210.
  • When you get a kill 70% of the gold total for the kill is put in a pot and spread across those who got assists.
  • In Champ Select if you look at the first picker's names you'll see "Team 1" and "Team 2" The color behind this is your team's color.
  • On blue side, red is bot. On purple side, blue is bot.
  • As a rule of thumb, especially early to mid game, when you push the to the enemy's tower, kill their creeps before attacking the tower. Every CS counts and the tower will go down eventually.
on Apr 06, 2012

If you tower dive two enemies alone, and get one kill, then die, you lost. You gained 300 gold. Your enemy gained 300 gold plus 210.

I thought that this was pretty well known.  This is why I usually play fairly aggressively on tower dives in the mid game.  If you dive somebody 2v1, and you get the kill but die in the process, its worth it.  Your team got kill gold plus assist gold, they got only kill gold.

on Apr 06, 2012

Krazikarl
I thought that this was pretty well known.

Well... fairly well known and known by everyone that reads this thread is another thing.  Good point adding the other side thought (2 diving 1).  Sometimes it helps to see the math right in front of you. 

At someone's suggestion in the my thread about being a good sport, I checked out www.theoldergamers.com. For anyone interested, their an age requirement of being at least 25 years old to join and the basic premise is to provide a place for folks older than that to play games with like minded folks.  I'm in the process of figuring out what "like minded" means amongst their folks that play LoL. 

You have to jump through a few hoops to join their site, though.  Nothing too over the top, but certainly some things to screen out some folks.  You can register for their forums just like you would for any other site and that's quite easy; however, you can't even view the League of Legends forum until you become a full member.  To become a full member,  you have to post an introduction thread where you tell a little bit about yourself, what games you play, and indicate that you want to be a member.  Then, one of their mods makes you a full member and you get access to all the content and their teamspeak servers, etc.  Registering took about 2 minutes.  The intro post took about 5.  Then it took about 5-6 hours for a mod to check out my post and make me a full member.

Anyway, I started to browse the LoL forums (side note - did you know that Teemo is getting a buff in the upcoming patch?).  The community doesn't seem to be incredibly active on the forum side of things... maybe 10 semi active threads and not a huge amount of folks participating in the jibba jabber.  I checked out their teamspeak server and there was exactly 1 person in the LoL channel (more than a few in other channels).  Then I checked their LoL chat room and there were about 10-12 folks idling in it, but no one was doing all that much chatting.  I asked on the forums when people play and it appears that most of the folks get together between 6PM and 1AM EST week days.  They supposedly do some pre mades (sounds like mostly normals) and some in house custom games.  Me = hopes they aren't mostly a bunch of casual folks.  pacov = still very hungry to a dedicated competitive team.

on Apr 06, 2012

Once I get rolling into ranked, I'd be very willing to help make your dedicated competitive team!

I can play any role (I prefer mid or jungle) and I know the competitive logistics of each role too, so hopefully if you get a team going I'd be able to contribute something useful.

on Apr 06, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
Once I get rolling into ranked, I'd be very willing to help make your dedicated competitive team!

I can play any role (I prefer mid or jungle) and I know the competitive logistics of each role too, so hopefully if you get a team going I'd be able to contribute something useful.

Sounds good.  I'd wager Karl would be down for joining a team as well, so we'd have 3 - just need 2 more spots.  In my magical world, I would love to be able to get a team that could handle running a 1-1-1 jungler + roaming ALI (or at least get that in our arsenal).  Barring that, I could play any role as needed.  Karl tends to jungle primarily - I'm super into jungling now, but Karl's better at it than me (barring jungle ALI anyway ). 

on Apr 06, 2012

I can hold my own with Urgot actually (Though I don't own him)...

I can also jungle Alistar and Lee Sin...

soooo let's see...

My mains (whomever I feel very confident playing/I own (and I do own more than these) ) are

Ziggs (Mid)

Viktor (Mid)

Veigar (Mid)

Ahri (Mid)

Kassadin (Mid)

Xerath (Mid)

Lee Sin (Jungle)

Ezreal (AD Bot)

Rumble (Top)

Cho'Gath (Top)

Volibear (Top)

Warwick (Top)

Irelia (Top)

Poppy (Top)

Alistar (Support/Jungle)

 

and these are organized according to my experience/preference.

on Apr 06, 2012

Yeah, I could do the solo urgot bit as well (and I own him), but I'd prefer to do the roaming ali for that 1-1-1 bit.  We'll see if that ever happens though... been wanting to at least try it for weeks.  Pretty sure we could do alot with several of those mids in an organized team comp.

W/e though - remind me though, what's your player name in LoL... been too long since we played.  I'll be on tonight at some point if you are around.  No reason we can't duo queue to get you up to 30 at least. 

 

on Apr 06, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun

I'm not sure that we've ever played together before...

 

I currently only play during the day Monday-Thursday...

Which probably doesn't work out for you.

I can't play at home right now, but in a few months I'll be able to play whenever...

sooooo

if you can hold on to your dream for a little while, I'll be able to help quite a lot more...

on Apr 06, 2012

Righto - I play throughout the week; typically between 6PM EST-11PM EST with varied hours on the weekends.  You should add me at any rate if you have not already (pacov). 

on Apr 06, 2012

actually if you are playing today, I might catch you shortly - looks like some of us are taking off early for good Friday.  I'll prob be on in about an hour.  Otherwise, I'm sure I'll catch you sometime.

on Apr 06, 2012

excellent!

I work on Fridays

so I am unable to play currently

 

but I look forward to being able to play with ya in the future

on Apr 06, 2012

ooo - watch this

on Apr 06, 2012

Hahaha

I've wanted to do that for sooooo long now

but it never works out...

I hit other people

but it always comes up a little too short when I want to kick someone into a specific person...

on Apr 06, 2012

IPL4 is on right now.  Game 3 of Dig vs MM now, think TSM v Cursed is up next, which will be a good one.

This should be interesting...Dig is running AP Soraka mid in the deciding game of the series...

on Apr 06, 2012

Just watched that, karl.  Wow... mm was strong... and then captain fail... going to play in a few min

See this though - new features in upcoming patch - some cool stuff.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/check-out-new-features-hecarim-update

 

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