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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on May 17, 2012

I was still planning on playing at that time. Having an alternate is pretty key though, as I'm sure things will come up for 1 person here and there and that pretty much kills the team play.

 

on May 17, 2012

I'll be on LoL at 8:15... well, I'm on now, but not playing until then.

on May 17, 2012

quick notes before i go to diablo 3land for an hour - we had the full team minus rawr.  I made the mistake of making rawr the team captain without thinking of the repercussions (eg I can't add members to the team).  So, I get everyone to drop from our existing 1 and 1 team.  Rawr - make sure you leave the Here We Chill team (our original team).  I invite everyone to a new team called How We Chill.  We play 3 games.  1 loss (1st game) and 2 wins (vs terribad teams).  McShane has joined our team as an alternate.  So, rawr, accept the invite to our team when you see it and leave the old team (to disband). 

Next team night is tuesday 8:15EST.  Be there if at all possible.  I think we could also get pete as a 2nd alternate if needed. 

Thanks for everyone that showed up.  Fun games and good discussion about our loss.  Danke!

on May 17, 2012

Oh my lord all of my bot lanes are soooo useless. I don't even want to think about my mejai's rushing support lux from last match or mr. get grabbed graves. Makes me so angry.

on May 18, 2012

Listen - if your support doesn't have a snowball item, you know they are crap. 

Actually - support is pretty damn close to the one character that a snowball item is worth it on.  They always roll with a solid assist ratio and generally low deaths... a rush is just a joke, though.  I wish I could figure out a reasonable way to get a snowball added.  I mean, think about it.  A decent support will always be out of "i'm dead range" and be getting assists.  Obviously stupid on the melee support crowd, but really, for the cost, its pretty damn awesome on one of the ranged supports - just no one does it. 

 

on May 18, 2012

She never had more than 4 stacks :<

on May 18, 2012

Froggen's Warmogs + Meja's Anivia

on May 18, 2012

Yeah but hes actually good unlike the lux I had

on May 18, 2012

I probably could have gotten away with Mejai's on Taric in our pubstomp games last night. At that point, it really doesn't matter very much what you itemize. In a close game, I don't think I would buy such a selfish item for a support. You add so much more to your team with Aegis, Frozen Heart, Reverie or other aura items.

on May 18, 2012

Taric is amazing...

he's the only other champ besides Viktor with whom I am able to win Ranked games with consistently...

on May 18, 2012

AragornV
I don't think I would buy such a selfish item for a support. You add so much more to your team with Aegis, Frozen Heart, Reverie or other aura items.

I generally agree here as well, but I'm sure there are benefits to supports like lulu, jana, and soraka to pick one up.  Certainly feels selfish as all get out if you do that, though.  If I get bored, I might just fire up a bot game and pick up a meja and see how much of a heal or shield you get on sork or janna.

 

Ok - some more feedback on our last team game.  So, we played 3 games.  We got worked over in game one and, like I said, played some pretty weak enemies in games 2 and 3. 

Things that we did really well (and in some cases improved over our 1st team night)

  • No raging at our teammates.  zen got his balls busted on our 1st game night over a few mistakes.  While I and a few others still made some mistakes on game night 2, there was no ball busting.  Folks just owned up to mistakes, etc, when we discussed the game afterwards
  • People owned up to mistakes.  Repeating myself a little here, but this is a big deal imo.  After the game 1 (our loss), the first thing I did was address where I screwed up and let everyone provide some feedback.  Then we went through each player a little bit, discussed mistakes, etc, and hopefully all learned a little bit from it. 
  • We discussed ways to improve communication.  For instance, in game 1, I had an idiotic moment when karl came to gank my lane and my mind was... elsewhere, so I didn't see him.  Granted, we all should be good enough players to be looking at the mini map and keeping tabs on our jungler, but if we are in voice chat, there's no reason why we can't communicate a little more with words. So, I expect in the future we'll be a smidge more vocal here and there. 

Anyway, just a few of the things I can think of.  I was really glad that McShane was around and was willing to join us as an alternate.  Everyone on the team - in as much as is possible, try to give us notice if you can't play on one of our scheduled game nights.  That way, I can hopefully get mcshane or someone else (if we get a 2nd alt) to fill in.  I don't want to get into a situation ever where we are wondering if someone is going to show up or not, so please do your best to communicate.  So far, so good though. 

Thanks again to everyone that showed upon our "canceled" team night and of course, to McShane for filling in as an alternate.  Gave us a chance to get some ranked games in and it was a lot of fun.  Thanks!

on May 18, 2012

Here's a fun one:

on May 19, 2012

so inferno is like impossible.  Oh hi im a vortex jailer arcane enchanted desecrator pack.  Translation:  They suck you in, root you in place, drop a massive damage nuke that ticks every second that hurts if you stand in it (easy to run out of.. OH WAIT UR ROOTED), and place spinning balls of doom that are crappy to avoid in the first place.. BUT WAIT U GOT PULLED INTO 4 OF THEM AND ROOTED THERE (1 pass of one of them can instantly kill as well).

on May 19, 2012

Demon hunter could do it.  Range + invis

on May 19, 2012

From what I've heard, Inferno is really class dependent.  Wizards, for example, can do stuff because they can kite and do big damage.  Barbarians seem worthless since their tanking ability is minimal, so they just go in and die against lots of stuff.  I can't say that this is terribly surprising, but it just seems like bad design.

Anyway, I'm not nearly that far along myself, but thats what I'm hearing.

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