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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jun 21, 2012

I'll wait around like 5 min in case anyone wants to join me on eu west.  online now  ipacovi

on Jun 21, 2012

Im downloading still, will be on EU West soon.

on Jun 21, 2012

OK -Pete's joining as well.

I'm declaring a low level invasion of EU West.

on Jun 21, 2012

Nevermind.  Their registration is down, so I can't sign up for a EU account. 

 

EDIT - NM figured it out.

on Jun 21, 2012

Well I am attempting to make an account lol.

on Jun 21, 2012

After 4000 games of DG between my two accounts I have started playing LOL. Iam a just learning to play this past week . Iam not dying near so much now and starting to get it figured out . Just playing 5 against bots for now while i learn but look forward to playing with some of the old DG crowd. So are you all using vent ? I have never used it so if you let me know how to set it up I will see what I can do. Feel free to add me to your list but Iam only low level yet. Hated LOL the first time I tried it but never gave it a chance really because it wasnt DG but now its growing on me. Starting to have fun. DG is now truly DEAD! LOL.

on Jun 22, 2012

heya rags - You are welcome to join us.  We still use the same DG public vent (lagwars) and a few of us are on most nights.  We typically do a Tuesday/Thursday game night that starts at 8:15 PM EST.  You are welcome to join us.  Add me, pacov, as a pal.  Hope to catch you sometime soon.

 

So, quick recap of our silly time on EU West.  Peter trolled us at mid.  Then we played a troll team and destroyed them.  Then we trolled another team and somehow destroyed them.  The end of the European invasion for tonight. 

edit - just add me as a pal and I'll give you the vent info.

on Jun 22, 2012

btw - I'm officially ending ranked team night for the time being.  I'll still wait around for folks that are on the team on Tuesdays and Thursdays, but until we get a dedicated roster, I say don't worry about it and well just pick up and play on both Tuesdays and Thursdays.  Hopefully we can get a real team going at some point, but I'm happy just playing with folks on a regular basis - and you've got a spot in the line up every tues/thurs if you committed.  So please, if you can't make it on either night (pacov speaks to karl and dude now), then let me know in advance either here or via pm so we don't wait around for ya.  Thanks!  Night all and thanks for the games.  Glad you fellas were willing to join me on EU and experience the joy of low level nonsense (eg its 55 to 9, let's play this bitch out). 

on Jun 22, 2012

A tip for the exciting server issues.  Apparently there is a magic tip to log in even if they disable to launcher:

For those if you where it is showing that NA is still offline; click on the grayed out "Play" button and then type "thereisnourflevel"

Last update I read indicated that they brought the servers back online at a basic level (whatever that means).

on Jun 22, 2012

quick suggestion - might want to log in whenever you get a chance if you are playing tonight.  Queue time appears to be awful still.

on Jun 22, 2012

Got a DotA 2 Invite

playing that ATM

on Jun 22, 2012

I have began my 1 hour 49 minute queue. Time to play Rebellion (again).

on Jun 22, 2012

A tip for the exciting server issues.  Apparently there is a magic tip to log in even if they disable to launcher:

For those if you where it is showing that NA is still offline; click on the grayed out "Play" button and then type "thereisnourflevel"

Last update I read indicated that they brought the servers back online at a basic level (whatever that means).

Lol it changes like once a month, so don't expect it to work for long... originally it was just the konami code lol

on Jun 22, 2012

Well I get to wait in queue for a third time today thanks to my computer crashing. I "should" be on at around 9 if this queue time is correct -.-

on Jun 22, 2012

heh - so I just checked out their little warning message in the client.  Here's what my slow brain read...

"We have temporarily disabled the purchasing of BOOTS from the store."

I had my screen shot all ready to post and everything.  fyi - boosts.

TL;DR: pacov can't read so good.

 

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