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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jul 18, 2012

pacov wonders when they will patch...

 

on Jul 18, 2012

pacov wonders when they will patch...

 

soon(tm)

on Jul 18, 2012

Uploading another vid to the channel.  This one is really just 1 min of terrible gameplay in a aram.  Should be up on 30 min or so.

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/LeagueOfPacov/videos

 

on Jul 19, 2012

new common sense rule - if peter plays a retarded character top, then feeds, but the rest of the team is doing great, don't quit before a team fight (remember that chat we had on the forums about exactly this thing, karl?).  Even if one is feeding, doesn't mean we lose.  Don't pull that horseshit on me again.   I'm strangely the 1 person that wanted to play it out... jackasses

Note the enemy teams chat... and my comentary - their mid was terrible, their support and ranged ad carry were terrible... their lee sin was terrible.  They had an irelia (so 4 terrible and 1 good -  we had 2 (1 setup to hyper carry) good, 1 terrible, and 2 so so).  Don't be a jack ass and at least play it out until the first team battle.  Bastards completely wasted my time. 

 

... i have twice as much farm as their ad carry - almost twice as much gold (she had 200 more than twice as much)... grr... how to waste your teams time vid coming up in a bit. 

on Jul 19, 2012

I probably would have played that out in ranked, but we weren't going to win that.

But a big part of the reason why I agreed to surrender is that I didn't want to hear Peter complain about random stuff like how Udyr built Treads and WE for the next 15 minutes while we slowly lost a series of teamfights.  It was going to just make me angry and I don't really see how we could win unless they were openly incompetent, so I just wanted to get out of that to save my blood pressure.

Plus, my surrender was mostly impulsive.  I didn't think that anybody else other than Peter was going to surrender, so I just hit Yes because I wasn't happy.  I was actually surprised when it went through.

on Jul 19, 2012

on a less rage filled note - the patch is being deployed to EU now.  Will hit NA tonight/early morning barring serious issues.  Tomorrow the QoT is loose.

on Jul 19, 2012

Krazikarl
But a big part of the reason why I agreed to surrender

No other part needed... if we are playing as a group and 1 person wants to play it out, you owe it to your pals to play it until the 1st team battle.  Anything less is douchebaggery. 

Mute the sob and play on for your pals.

on Jul 19, 2012

well.. rage subsided and sleep. etc.  I'm sure my competitive pals understand what I'm saying at any rate and there's no point to bitch further.  :/

so - 2 quick things to recap

  1. Patch is going live tonight/early tomorrow.  We will have Qot, eve, twitch, and xin to play with as more or less new characters. 
  2. One thing annoyed me with my vids.  I only have my pov.  My lol replay was disabled by my av awhile back.  I sorted that tonight.  So, it will be possible for me to catch awesome plays from teammates outside of my pov.  Not as big an issue on ARAM, but a pretty big deal on other maps.  So, if we are playing a game and you have a badass play, make a post here or pm me.  I can pull that out going forward and make little vids.

Last thing - I make vids for 2 diff audiences.  1 is just for crap that we would find amusing and the other is for >3k folks that love bad ass plays.  I prioritize the us stuff, but if you pull off something truly bad ass, I can easily make a vid for those >3k folks.  To give you an idea, I've created like 30ish vids and submitted 3 to those > 3k folks.  BUT - you really need to keep in mind that I might not see if it we are not playing an aram, so make sure to mention it to me in any game we play.  Happy to toss up a video and make you more well known.  OK then - night all.

on Jul 19, 2012

If anyone ever surrendered a game where I happened to be 6/0 as the AD carry (I really wouldn't care how they were doing since being 6/0 means we clearly haven't even lost a teamfight yet), I would probably press the little x button on vent then the little x on league and go about having fun somewhere else for the day and maybe the next few after that. It would be pretty safe to say I wouldn't be a happy camper the next time I talked to the people either. Just my 2 cents.

 

I highly doubt Zyra will be in the patch as I quote from the EUNE patch notes.

 

"League of Legends v1.0.0.143 Zyra, Rise of the Thorns

  • Pending the completion of some further testing on PBE, Zyra will be released at a future date."

 

Edit: Also yay Urgot got smashed with the nerf bat. Now I never have to put up with him bot lane again ^^.

on Jul 19, 2012

No other part needed... if we are playing as a group and 1 person wants to play it out, you owe it to your pals to play it until the 1st team battle.  Anything less is douchebaggery.

To be fair, I surrendered as soon as the vote came up and before you said not to surrender.

I'm sorry that you didn't get to play out a game that you wanted to, but I voted before I heard what you wanted because I honestly didn't see a way we were going to win that.

on Jul 19, 2012

OMG_Shiro
If anyone ever surrendered a game where I happened to be 6/0 as the AD carry (I really wouldn't care how they were doing since being 6/0 means we clearly haven't even lost a teamfight yet), I would probably press the little x button on vent then the little x on league and go about having fun somewhere else for the day and maybe the next few after that. It would be pretty safe to say I wouldn't be a happy camper the next time I talked to the people either. Just my 2 cents.

Normally the team has a good chance if the AD carry is 6/0, but not always.  I've seen similar surrenders at 1600 before.  In this case, they had the hardest scaling anti carry in the game at 7/0.  And our top was useless since he was going to do less damage than me as Taric.  And our mid started off with a low damage mid and didn't build AP, so we had little damage from mid.  Basically, our only way of winning was pacov literally killing them all by doing 90% of the damage.  That was completely inconceivable since they had a super fed anti carry that we didn't have an answer to.

on Jul 19, 2012

Krazikarl
I probably would have played that out in ranked, but we weren't going to win that.

But a big part of the reason why I agreed to surrender is that I didn't want to hear Peter complain about random stuff like how Udyr built Treads and WE for the next 15 minutes while we slowly lost a series of teamfights.

Yeah... learned the hardway when playing with my beginner friends that it doesn't matter how much you get fed when playing an AD Carry if there's a fed Riven, Olaf, Irelia etc on the other team and you have no one to protect you.

And oh Lowdy I feel your pain!  There are some folks out there that can really take away a man's enjoyment of this game when things go sour.

on Jul 19, 2012

I'm back in action! Looking forward to some games tonight. I promise to hit no to every surrender

on Jul 19, 2012

holy crap has work been a nightmare today.  I've had about 2 minutes total take a break... smeh.  Glad to hear you are back up and running aragorn.  Games will be fun tonight with the revamped characters.  dibs on trying out eve.

on Jul 19, 2012

login was a bit strange on my side tonight... seemed slow and the launcher did not fully load stuff... not sure what's up.

online at any rate

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