Pacov's place to enjoy the show.

Update 5/25/2017

  • This thread is all done.  I've lost interest in jibba jibbing here, but its been fun.  Thanks for all the memories.  
  • I am streaming from time to time on twitch - generally just when I'm trying hard in ranked though.  If interested, you can check that out here:  https://www.twitch.tv/pacovdumptruck
 

Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...).  That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike.  You can find the previous thread (now archived) here:  https://forums.joeuser.com/413863.  I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.

What’s this thread all about?
For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to.  Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like.  I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL.  Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.

Quick background on me
I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out.  I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.

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on Jan 25, 2016

OMG_ZEX
Hoping for higher this year.

Right on man!  Glad you didn't drop too low.  Was worried about the reset after reading too many of the Reddit Chicken Little's crying.

The New Champ Select is back online but I'm probably not going to do my placements right away.  I'm thinking I'm going to go Mid as my Secondary choice just so I will get to play Marksman more but I'm not really confident in the role and don't know how often I'm going to be playing it.

If you have any suggestions on how I can improve my Mid play, I'm all ears!

Edit: Bah!  Nevermind Cow.  I might just be a bot lane specialist this season.  I only stopped playing Support because I have 17 friends who also prefer the position nowadays.  I'm going to be playing more Ranked than casual games, so I may as well go back to what I like and what I'm good at right?

Anyway, good luck on getting high Diamond this season... or dare I even dream of... Master Cow?!

on Jan 25, 2016

I think i'm leaning support/mid now.  Really glad the new champ select is back.  This is all lytes BS to make us like the new mode.  

on Jan 25, 2016

I think i'm leaning support/mid now.  Really glad the new champ select is back.

Good choice for you.  Some of your Support Mages are really strong Mids right now so you shouldn't have any problem when you end up there.  Which I'm thinking will be rare since your Primary will be probably the least popular role and your Secondary will be the most popular.

For your watching/reading pleasure: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/421wbp/mastertier_zyra_mid_video_guide_by_melyn/

 

 

This is all lytes BS to make us like the new mode.

Huh?

on Jan 25, 2016

DAE think Rito Lyte is literally DR DOOM ? ? ? ??

on Jan 25, 2016

Yes.

 

@thunder -thx for link - cool!

on Jan 25, 2016

quite a bit of work to do on my mid zyra.  Not even used to last hitting.  bleh.  giving it another go now

on Jan 25, 2016

and game 2 i go 11/1/10.

Mostly need to focus on  my q harass (usually I can't use that as much as a support for just straight harass (mana issues)).  That and cs.  Already have decent team fight logic and mechanics with her.  Just need to brush up on mid game basics/advanced stuff, wave manipulation, last hitting, and harass.

on Jan 25, 2016

3rd game mixed results - tend to lean towards we had dummos on team.  Loss.

Game 4 - picked up the dump truck after cow sodded off.  Crushed it, but I'm in the PDT elo, so doesn't mean much.  Did get to work some on cs though.

 

on Jan 26, 2016

That long ass game though.... This is the biggest reason I don't like adc. The whole game is on your shoulders to kill everyone that late into the game and it's a lot of work. I am pretty decent at positioning in team fights but I just don't have the mechanics from practing down. I felt like I had ran a marathon after that game. Was so tired that I got crushed by an AD top bard the next game

on Jan 26, 2016

yea, but we'd have lost if I was adc and we still had pete schenigans.  My late game positioning is pretty smeh on adc.  That other team being atrocious did not hurt our chances...

Still, on the positive, you got to work on your adc and I got to work on my malph.  I get being exhausted tho.  

Was enjoying getting in my reps on zyra mid yesterday though.  Starting to acclimate.  Still leaning towards lux as a mid pick with zyra as a second.  Think I'm going to be spamming zyra mid/bot. Just need a few more reps mid and i'll feel comfortable rolling mid/support in ranked.   Currently completely comfortable in norms, but want more exp for the ranked.  

on Jan 26, 2016


3rd game mixed results - tend to lean towards we had dummos on team.  Loss.

Was that the game you went against Vlad?  I watched some of that before dinner and hope you don't mind some suggestions.

Runes - The Master Tier guy who wrote the guide I linked likes to use flat Health runes while you went with the standard mid choice which are scaling.  I think he likes the flat ones because Zyra has great early harass but is extremely squishy.  Might wanna try that out and see if it helps you feel more comfortable taking advantage of weak early game champions like Vlad a little more.

Masteries - I think you accidentally used your Support Zyra Masteries?  If not, I'd suggest you switch to the ones the guide suggested.  Savagery should help for your last hitting that you said you had issues with and Dangerous Game would probably be better for a solo lane than Bandit.  I also think Merciless>Meditation in most situations.

Maybe try harder to get an auto in on your opponent right after using the QW combo.  Seemed like you were skipping the auto a lot which is pretty key for the automatic Thunderlord's proc and keeping your plants targeted on the enemy.  I like to queue up an auto attack when I'm out of range which causes me to walk towards the opponent.  When I get close enough I press QW so my auto attack goes off immediately if they try and harass back.

Hopefully some of that helps you carry the 'dummos' next time!

on Jan 27, 2016

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm actually trying out quite a few different setups, but sadly, out of my 7 or so games yesterday where I chose mid/support for roles, I only rolled mid once, so I didn't get experiment a bunch with a mid setup.  I did go with an aggressive support setup (yielded mixed results - hyper carry if doing ok, so so if not).

Anyway, let's see.  I actually felt great against the vlad in that one game.  I traded fine with him and actually whooped him just fine until his friends showed up and aramed it up for a long time.  You are right - I went with the scaling health, but I felt pretty comfortable.  That said, the vlad seemed to have a pretty low skill level, so it wasn't much of a threat.  

hm... so, I actually watched that fellas guides a few times.   I'm debating on whether or not to setup specific rune pages for her.  Sadly, I like to specialize A BUNCH, so I'll end up having to blow away some pages to get zyra specific.  Maybe someday dr rito will let me give them more money for additional rune pages.  

Anyway, playing zyra mid is impacting my support zyra game - a bit in a negative way.  Mana usage and harass vary quite a bit.  When supporting, I'd generally use less mana and try to converse for a bigger burst pattern.  As mid, I spam a bit more (not over the top, but more).  But I'm carrying that over to the support role and I don't have quite as much sustain for the early stuff.  

I've been trying with and without the mastery that either gives a % of your mana back added dmg if below 40% hp.  Without the % mana has a huge impact on me at various stages in either role.  The added dmg seems pretty valuable though.

I did ok vs a LB in my one game as mid last night even with my jungler running mid with low hp for no reason to die and give lb dbl buffs 5 min in... 

I think I would have been better off if I had a flat MR setup... so maybe I'll make one of those. My traditional zyra support is actually just a safe support page (mpen, arm, mr, maybe health - can't remember).  That was my only other option for runes vs lb that game.  The lb clearly had some ideas of how to play around the zyra matchup.  She'd dash to an angle then reposition a bunch to try to avoid getting snared by my e.  Anyway, quite a few matchups to learn.  Hoping I don't burn out on her too quickly.  Started to yesterday. 

Thundercles

Maybe try harder to get an auto in on your opponent right after using the QW combo.  Seemed like you were skipping the auto a lot which is pretty key for the automatic Thunderlord's proc and keeping your plants targeted on the enemy.  I like to queue up an auto attack when I'm out of range which causes me to walk towards the opponent.  When I get close enough I press QW so my auto attack goes off immediately if they try and harass back.

Yeah - I saw that in the guide also - just not used to the motion 100%.  Something to work on for sure. thx

on Jan 27, 2016


Anyway, playing zyra mid is impacting my support zyra game - a bit in a negative way.  Mana usage and harass vary quite a bit.

A long time ago when I decided for 5 minutes to be a Zyra main, I would use the Spooky Zyra skin for Support and Lava Zyra for Mid to try and keep the styles of play and my capabilities separate in my mind.  It helped a little.  Maybe.

on Jan 27, 2016

oh boy.. patch notes indicate that 4k resolution is fixed...

on Jan 27, 2016

fyi there is an icon for sale for 1500 ip in the store.

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