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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Jun 03, 2010

How does one not know ITT? Also, you can just go to google and type in "define: ITT" and then just pick the most logical definition.

on Jun 03, 2010

Here Ninki:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ITT

Edit: Lol, wrong link.

on Jun 03, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ
^How did you know what ITT stands for? I had to msg koush and ask him myself.

You don't browse forums enough.

 

on Jun 03, 2010

Ninki, I'm not going to get into a whole big thing here, but you can play one character and that is all.  You're not the master of demigod.  Anytime you want to make some good replays, grab Jona and let me know. 

on Jun 03, 2010

Got an issue with someone only playing one character?

on Jun 03, 2010

OMG_Teseer
Got an issue with someone only playing one character?

I got an issue with someone talking like they know everything about every playstyle and chemistry etc. when they can only play one character well.  Ninki plays several characters but is only good with one. 

on Jun 03, 2010

anyone object to nom for tier1?

on Jun 03, 2010

OMG_pacov
anyone object to nom for tier1?

Of course not, Nomilarac is a Demigod expert.

on Jun 04, 2010

GM-McShane87

I got an issue with someone talking like they know everything about every playstyle and chemistry etc. when they can only play one character well.  Ninki plays several characters but is only good with one. 

Actually I'd argue I'm good with none.

But anyway, that's beside the point. It's like saying all judges need to be good as their contestants. If you know the mechanics of the game and have a brain, you can be a good judge.

Anyway reading over my reply I think I was a bit too harsh. I apologize and I will refrain from delving any deeper into the issue.

on Jun 04, 2010

I suck at Demigod, and I've never, ever, ever claimed otherwise.

on Jun 04, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1506
I got an issue with someone talking like they know everything about every playstyle and chemistry etc. when they can only play one character well.  Ninki plays several characters but is only good with one. 
Actually I'd argue I'm good with none.

But anyway, that's beside the point. It's like saying all judges need to be good as their contestants. If you know the mechanics of the game and have a brain, you can be a good judge.

Anyway reading over my reply I think I was a bit too harsh. I apologize and I will refrain from delving any deeper into the issue.

Don't back out now, like I said, let's make some replays.  You are good with one character and you barely know the mechanics of the game, so you have no right to do all this judging. 

on Jun 04, 2010

heh

thank you for your feedback - nom to tier 1.

edit - as the tourney is taking a silly ass long time, I'm looking again at our list.  I still expect this list to get an overhaul, but I'm evaluating again.  If i missed you, please let me know here and we'll quickly review... be that tier 2, tier 1, etc.

My realistic goal is trying to update this list a little to get it a bit accurate.  And please let me remind you, again and again, its a dumbass list.  You might be substantially better than EVERYONE listed here.  If things are working ok, you should get a fair chance to prove that.  You might be better than me.  A few are.  Its ok.  Just have fun and goof off in our list discussion if you want to. 

on Jun 04, 2010

GM-McShane87

Don't back out now, like I said, let's make some replays.  You are good with one character and you barely know the mechanics of the game, so you have no right to do all this judging. 

I already suggested a Tier 1 match up, but it's not going to happen for some time.

Besides, I'm not backing out I'm just not going to waste my time.

Why don't you try and post something constructive for once, since all you do is just spit out nonsense.

on Jun 04, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1511
Don't back out now, like I said, let's make some replays.  You are good with one character and you barely know the mechanics of the game, so you have no right to do all this judging. 
I already suggested a Tier 1 match up, but it's not going to happen for some time.

Besides, I'm not backing out I'm just not going to waste my time.

Why don't you try and post something constructive for once, since all you do is just spit out nonsense.

 

You'd rather not waste your team losing games?  I don't get it.  You talk all the time like you know exactly why everyone fails and what to do in every situation then refuse to back it up.  You did the same thing with cow not long ago saying how terrible his beast was then wouldn't play UB vs him yourself, you stuck to Erebus the only character you know how to play.  Since I'm such a fail UB and you knew automatically that Orcun and I would lose our game because I played him, why don't we play our own mini tournament?

How am I supposed to be constructive, you actually want me to explain to you and Jona how to play? I think my class time series of replays are quite constructive, I'd rather not get too wordy in my posts.

on Jun 04, 2010

^I already explained myself by saying "I wouldn't do a UB justice. I want to dominate the game, not just win." I also know for a fact that no one would support me as well as myself, which is why I rarely play UB. You even said yourself "Your UB is not bad" but clearly your posts stem from some sort of frustration you have with me and maybe even yourself. Funny that you were one of the people that posted my replay to nominate me for Tier 1, and I never asked for it.

OMG_NinkiCZ

Why don't you try and post something constructive for once, since all you do is just spit out nonsense.

And the statement still holds true.

Go ahead, explain what needs to be changed that you do better. I already did my fair share in 1 sentence.

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