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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Jan 10, 2010

I'm agree with Oaks shield/. It should be interupted TP, Healing or something else through the shield, or there's no way to kill Oak. It's kinda imba imho. I've played 2 days ago against such minion Oak build. It was Dominate on Prison 1v1 Pantheon match, and it lasts 53 minutes. Lol, never played 1v1 games on prison that lasts such a long time. At the end it was like 9800 vs. 9700 warscore points. And despite that i won the game , he got 140 favor and i'm 105. He was just spaming me with spirits and all others minions and i couldn't even catch him. He was very fast, with shield and always avoid me. That was crazy game.

 

Here it is : http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1194508/player/67657/

on Jan 10, 2010

I've said this before yes this is a stupid skill, however right now it's not that good of a skill without teleport abusing. Lower its CD but get rid of the debuffing.

 

 

P.S. Winning 2vs2 when your down 4 kills is nice but is most likely just very stupid opponents.

on Jan 10, 2010

McShane87
Lol this exact same thing happened to me.  Mith's friend gl-omicron does an equally annoying minion oak build.  I played them with a random and mith dropped after omicron had destroyed all of our towers and still he won by just pummeling the citadel with spirits.  I'm not sure how to deal with a build like that in 2 vs 2, it would be manageable with other good players in a 3 vs 3 but in 2s it's rough.  Anyone else see that replay yet and have suggestions?
 
Only real counter to spirits like that is to have your own oak and a UB. Surge when they get low and they heal you for more than they damage you. Nature's Reckoning on the oak helps tremendously, once you get rank 2 surge the spirits become more of a liablity than a help, but of course you've gotta hold out till 10 for that.

Rook is a decent counter too since the towers are effective at getting the spirits relatively low but bad at finishing in a timely manner. He can consistently weaken them enough for big surge heals. Regardless though, you've pretty much gotta have an oak.

on Jan 10, 2010

To be honest, the build I used in that game was not my typical build.

I was frustrated at having lost twice in a row to ThatGuy and Renz0 and figured I'd try something different.  Turns out it worked.

Usually, instead of points into morale, I have points in Surge and Divine Faith, and have less minion-oriented equipment.

 

Also, this thread seems to have deviated from the topic. Hm.

on Jan 10, 2010

Auroson1c - added to tier 2 list.  Just watched one of the replays you posted.  Competent player.  I don't agree with a few of his item choices, but he showed some decent teamplay and had decent map awareness. 

on Jan 10, 2010

Janook
To be honest, the build I used in that game was not my typical build.

I was frustrated at having lost twice in a row to ThatGuy and Renz0 and figured I'd try something different.  Turns out it worked.

Usually, instead of points into morale, I have points in Surge and Divine Faith, and have less minion-oriented equipment.

 

Also, this thread seems to have deviated from the topic. Hm.

Sounds like Peterdumptruck to me.

on Jan 10, 2010

Auroson1c - added to tier 2 list.  Just watched one of the replays you posted.  Competent player.  I don't agree with a few of his item choices, but he showed some decent teamplay and had decent map awareness. 

 

ty !

on Jan 10, 2010

good list, minus few people who need to grow a pair instead of avoiding teams with even a slight disadvantage.  But everyone who comes to mind atm is there, gj

Thought of gL-OmicronLyrae, seems to be good aswell, only seen him as annoying min oak tho:), not much different from peter in that sense.. so oak from my exp

Also is there a reason iamKira isn't there, thought i seen the name there before.   imo he is more solid than some players on that list

same goes for -Heros-Temp? lol maybe im missing something here.. played with all of them not that long ago..

not friends with any of those guys, 1 of em i actually dont like cause of manners related experience but to be fair seems they should be included

Also props to 2nana, at least in my experience with him he often played on weaker teams without bitching or leaving before we start games.

also second ninki, hemp, mcshane for dropping my %)

 

on Jan 10, 2010

Another replay, has me peter and Maccilia in it along with some other good players.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=106750

I am begining to like QoT a bit more after a few recent games with her.

on Jan 10, 2010

Another replay, has me peter and Maccilia in it along with some other good players.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=106750

I am begining to like QoT a bit more after a few recent games with her.

ya before everyone watches this I screwed up and didn't buy enough cit upgrades to go with my kills...... or i shoulda bought rook somethin shiny but meh

P.S. Peters build makes me want to throw things into the wall or out the window

on Jan 10, 2010

I am begining to like QoT a bit more after a few recent games with her.

I'm seeing a new trend too... good players starting to work on their qot and getting better.  Trouser's been playing with some builds that are reasonably powerful.

on Jan 10, 2010


I am begining to like QoT a bit more after a few recent games with her.
I'm seeing a new trend too... good players starting to work on their qot and getting better.  Trouser's been playing with some builds that are reasonably powerful.
I've been playing QoT long before it became cool T.T

on Jan 11, 2010

Weird, I played QoT in a bunch of my games today as well.

I think we are all just bored of the standards.

on Jan 11, 2010

hey... we will be organizing a tourney based on this list.  Details to follow.  Janook will create a separate post sometime soon.

on Jan 11, 2010
I wouldn't exclude anyone who wants to join the tourney, the more the merrier imo.
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