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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Jan 11, 2010

pacov =  slacking.  I miss people from time to time... added omicron.


lol..
ty   

oh and prozombe i dont even know if i have done a game with you.
but ill give you some karma for being nice!

on Jan 11, 2010

Now i know why ThatGuyYouLove has such a good stats)) Well yes, he is playing good, but just as host just reseted a game which he wasn't sure will be won. Sad

 

Add :  Sorry about that. My mistake. I thought it was host quit, but the game just appeared in stats. Kinda some connection issues i had. Two game in a row, i just thrown out of the games and got loss with some of teammates. Sigh

on Jan 11, 2010

yeah and in addition "thatguy..." even kick guys like me, because stats aren´t over 50 or 60%. Due to playing pantheon on assassin side my stats are low - but he didn´t make efforts to let new people play his premade game. That´s no good sportmanship and if most guys on your list above behace like this, you will never attract more people to this game.....

on Jan 11, 2010

ThatGuy doesn't desync. He has good stats because he is that good.

 

Gonzo, your win record isn't even 40%. In a "no noobs" game, you will be considered a liability by all sides. Host your own noob games.

on Jan 11, 2010

I think iokke should be added to the list. He's a decent player.

I find it hilarious that no one has nominated the goddamn teamstacker Oakman.

on Jan 11, 2010

im above 40%

but stats doen´t say anything about skill. If i had wanted, I would make premade game to push that score...thats senseless !

on Jan 11, 2010

yeah and in addition "thatguy..." even kick guys like me, because stats aren´t over 50 or 60%. Due to playing pantheon on assassin side my stats are low - but he didn´t make efforts to let new people play his premade game. That´s no good sportmanship and if most guys on your list above behace like this, you will never attract more people to this game.....

We had someone on vent and well we asked if you were good and you didn't respond for a few min so he kicked you

on Jan 11, 2010

GeneralGonzo
im above 40%

but stats doen´t say anything about skill. If i had wanted, I would make premade game to push that score...thats senseless !

 

I always get a chuckle when someone says this.  Stats are not determinative of skill but they are indicative.  You are sitting at 42% right now.  That's pretty low for a game that says Pros only or Be Good.  Look at it this way, if you are pugging with that win percentage, your other two teammates are not likely to hang around when the other team is sitting at 65%+ and is a premade.  Better for the host to boot right away than see the other two people on the team leave.

Maybe you are the great exception, but I can't tell you the number of times someone has told me they are the exception.

on Jan 11, 2010

where does this replay place on the scale? (click to download)


pantheon result http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1201223/player/50684/



p.s. my win % is like <50%, enemy team was average of 80%

on Jan 11, 2010

Thanks epi;) need to get a game going 1 day

on Jan 11, 2010

p.s. my win % is like <50%, enemy team was average of 80%

ya but shake (not snake ) i recognize you from the forums and the guides you've written as well as some excellent replays... thats not true of everyone with a <50% win %...

on Jan 12, 2010

[quote who="[ShakeNBake]" reply="459" id="2504374"]where does this replay place on the scale? (click to download)


pantheon result http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1201223/player/50684/



p.s. my win % is like <50%, enemy team was average of 80%
[/quote]

lol, Tocac is a super noob with 3 games in this epoch and didnt play since September in epoch 2. That is not what I will call an average of 80%. With such a teammate it is near impossible to get a good game. Didnt watch the replay, I will not waste my time with this.

on Jan 12, 2010

Tocac is a super noob


he was in a premade with Wip who vouched for him, and he had 100% win ratio until he lost that game

on Jan 12, 2010

[quote who="[ShakeNBake]" reply="463" id="2504507"]
Tocac is a super noob

he was in a premade with Wip who vouched for him, and he had 100% win ratio until he lost that game

[/quote]

iamKira and Wip are not premade, and Tacoc is still a noob, 100% in 2 games is just LOL

on Jan 12, 2010

Maccilia

yeah and in addition "thatguy..." even kick guys like me, because stats aren´t over 50 or 60%. Due to playing pantheon on assassin side my stats are low - but he didn´t make efforts to let new people play his premade game. That´s no good sportmanship and if most guys on your list above behace like this, you will never attract more people to this game.....


We had someone on vent and well we asked if you were good and you didn't respond for a few min so he kicked you

Thanks for your answer. When we were waiting for more people to come, I was back on desktop. So I couldn´t read your question and finally you kicked me for not answering I guess !

A pitty, could have been a good match. Played a premade then against the gang of "Alterschism", him playing a very good DA. Was a good match, which we closely lost.....

...btw, played a 3on3 with Darz4 - best QoT seen a long time!

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