TB and Rook I think are your other great characters.  Do you have the replay of you, me and Renz vs Ninki, Horsestrangler and raerreggin (kingslet)?  That was a good game.  Don't tell Ninki I suggested posting it though lol.

lol so my addition made list too long for you katana?  Ke5 added a replay though it may not be a very good example because we just ate that team since Kestrel was hacking;)

if I get a game going with good teammates on both sides ill post it.  Not emotionally attached to being on the list so if it is getting long or you are not sure, you can take me off pacov, wont be offended.

btw think imma change my name to decent:D

Pac, I was the rook in that game that you played against (tag "TheJadeMonkey").  It was a bummer that the game dropped, but I'm pretty sure that was just a fluke, particularily since the invalide gamestate happened right when Maccilia crashed.  The stat whore stuff was kind of "heat of the moment" frustration of some of the guys I think.  No hard feelings, at least on my part...  I just thank the (demi)gods that connections are soooo much better now than at launch.  Also, a couple things I might mention about that game that might help your team...

1.  Capping the side portals early let me double farm the left side, getting a slight early game exp advantage.  I would personally leave them uncapped, at least for a little while.

2.  IMHO your team waited a bit too long to get some cit upgrades.  Of particular note were tower regen 1 and priests (which came quite a bit later than ours IIRC).  Given your assassin heavy team, earlier priests probably would have been a good buy.

3.  Both demi's on my left side (so your right) left the lane fairly early at the same time, loosing out on the lane exp and letting oak and I push that tower down very early.  Around the same time oak and I ran over and took out the front tower by the side portal too...  Easy gold for us.

4.  Your rook should have spread out his tower farms a bit.  A few times he had 4-5 towers all stacked, boxing us in close to the towers by our valor flag.  Since they were grouped so tight however, I could run up and slam twice to get rid of them while only taking relativly minor damage. 

5.  Didn't see, but I think you might have gotten good use out of a speed wand, because I vaguely remember you getting eaten a few times by our reg.

6.  I remember one skirmish over by the debilitating flag where I was getting whacked by both your UB and rook, oak might have been there too... Anyways, I was able to get off a 3sec pot cast w/o getting inturrupted, which ended up in your rook eating it.  Should have probably been +1 kill for you.

I appreciate the feedback.   My premade has always been a bit of a shapeshifter... there's no core 2 or 3 man premade there.  We fluctuate anywhere from 4-8 people and as a result, don't get the benefit that comes from playing with the exact same characters.  And I'm, unfortunately for my team, I'm going through a phase where I don't give a real rip about winning.  Which means I'm choosing tier 2 demigods on a more regular basis.  I could tell you before that game began that we would lose.  We get different strengths and weaknesses based on who is playing in our little premade at the time.  Some combos of players are more complimentary than others.

glad to hear some reps for people with good attitudes. 

Pacov,

I nominated iokke a while back, silly.

hard to keep up with 500+ posts:)  pacov did you ever get to read the expanded post on the tourney system?  wanna know what ya think, its kinda long tho=/

Stupid nvidia drivers...

lolz... true enough. 

no kidding, mac.  I was actually mostly pissed at you because I knew the result would be people thinking me on someone on my team was pulling a fast one.  hehe.  Happens though. 

I'll look it up and respond regarding that asap.

MOOOOOO.....

Am I tier one yet?

Oh and Epiphenomenonononononononon, I tried messaging you a lot yersterday for that premade vs premade you asked for but no response, maybe next time.

I had a few matches with Ragarth and Kestrel yersterday, I can tell that when Ragarth warms up more he is gonna be a real challenge.

I might create a tier 4 called the Luft tier and put you there

I'd like to see a replay of one of his games if possible.

I had another rediculous thought:  tiers based on character.  I doubt I'll do this unless I really feel like nerding it up, but I think a list that indicates tier 1 regs, etc, would be great.  Then this list wouldn't just be bragging rights and peer approval, but it might serve as a better way for forming teams... and we could put the number 1 and 2 assassin erb up against each other and see who tears things up the most.  We'd also be able to form some very interesting matches by mixing putting number 1 erb + number 1 rook + number 1 ub vs number 2 team.  That would generate some bragging rights and some good competition, imo. 

nope.  I'd still like to see a replay with you using other dgs well.  You left enough of an impression with me to get a nomination, but, as the silly definition stands above...

Just bringing this forward to review later so it doesn't get lost in the pages...

Well, got a chance to go through to post. Thank you for the good comments. As mentioned earlier, i am on vacation,visiting my hometown. I'll be back within couple weeks. Looking forward to play with you guys.

Nice to see you still kicking Orcun. Orcun is tier 1 in any book, to doubt that makes you a noob.

Also, it is pretty annoying to beat pretty much every premade there is with almost all characters, but because you guys want replays I get stuck in the mud. I only save my 2 v 2 replays, and I only use Rook, tb, QoT in 3 v 3.

I might do some 3 v 3's tonight and get some replays with QoT and TB. Just to please the crowd.