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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Jan 15, 2010

put me in Lufty's tier

on Jan 15, 2010

stuck in the mud?  you seem like a nice guy and an amazing player from all the posts here, but you need to stop letting the urge for recognition get to your head;)

Doing the tier 1 for each dg will prolly be a huge pain pacs

on Jan 15, 2010

Can I be Tier 0?

on Jan 15, 2010

This game is just lol.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107136

Peter posted it because he likes it when top players get owned, I kind of feel bad linking it here but it does show my skills off a bit. The call for proof was vocalized several times so here is some. I also had excellant help with Peter, Yeahneil and Bartek kudos to you three.

Pacov, feel free to post the brothers game that you won after this one if you feel cheated by this replay. I didn't save either game unfortunatly. I think my team didn't do so well in the brothers game due to demigod choice because nobody could push trouser off his flag. If I was rook it might have been different.

Anyway gg's and I hope you post the brothers game.

on Jan 15, 2010

lol just realized there is a big (i mean BIG) fail in my logic on the tourney.  if you have a group of 4, thats 3 variations of 3 player teams, but they will not be able to play each other (duh that means 3vs3 as in 6 players in a group.. stupid iokke).  solution = bigger groups or intra group matching.  For example 2v2s are played within same group, 3v3s are 3 games matched vs another group. similarly based on timeslots. in any case my thinks you need a point system with as many different games as you can fit in to get better results

edit: I think it will be too much of pain and requires too much of a dedication from all  the players for us to try to run something like this.  Probably will not happen no matter which system you choose

on Jan 15, 2010

I was actually mostly pissed at you because I knew the result would be people thinking me on someone on my team was pulling a fast one. hehe. Happens though.

yeah sry ill take the blame for this... my new comp has been delayed since Christmas...

on Jan 15, 2010

This game is just lol.

the title of the replay has me cracking up.  Nice! 

I really wasn't all that impressed with either game (the one we lost and the one we won), so I didn't save a replay. 

I watched what you posted... jon committed suicide in less than 1 minute (great start).  I dropped bartek at 1 min 10.  At 3 min, tactical decided to try to take on 3 of you and died.  At 5 min, I overpursue rook like a goof and die... which results  in jon dying again... followed by tactical dying again... all in a 15 second period, if even.  at 5:20 or so I gank peter.  This sadly makes the only 2 kills we've scored against your team... (we've died a total of 5 times to those 2 kills).  You guys are dominating on flag control and already have us by almost 1000 at 8min.  we kill bartek again at 8:51.  trouser dies to cow a 9min.  11:42... tactical dies after deciding to use blast off into 3 people on your team when we were backing out and clearly indicated we needed to back the fug up.  12:55, I kill peter again.  13:36 - cow wipes trouser and jon again.  At this point, i have 3 kills, jon has 1.  your team has 5 for cow, 1 for pete, 1 for neil, and 1 for bartek (4 v 8).  13:45, tactical kills cow, then dies.  tactical has died 5 times at this point.  you guys are still owning the map.  cow kills tactical again at 18min.  at 18:40, i kill pete again, but then get chased by 2, another ports in, and then i die.... would have made it out if not for rooks long range stun - good bowling!.  at 20 min, me n trouser gank bartek.  But then at 20:21, my one real f-up of the game (imo)... i have cow down to 270 hp or so... he starts to port away... i've got no bite, a stun on deck, and I decide to try to aa him for a kill... he ports away with like 50 hp or something... idiot move on my part.  that would have been a nice money kill.  instead... i end up getting killed by a boulder roll from neil... lolz.  classsic stuff.

incidentally, you guys are at warscore 9 now and we are at 6... its us with 14 deaths, you guys with 8.  tactical kills cow... tactical kills pete at 23min.  tactical kills bartek at 23:42.  heh... now he's got his shite together, but it doesn't matter at this point - the citadels like a minute from going down as giants have already been popped and we're still warscore 6.  Anyway, game lost to kills and warscore...goes on a bit longer, but I've spent quite a bit of time on this already.

Anyway, not to slight your team at all, but i don't really remember anything exceptionally impressive from the game.  My team was feeding your team early, so we couldn't keep up with flag control and that continued throughout the game.  The only real coordinated effort that impresed me was rook's port to kill me when I was being chased by u and bartek.  That was great.  Fun game though.  You know its a bad sign when in less than a minute, one of your teammates dies and you ask him why and his response is "i have no idea."  Tis a bad omen.  Lots of fun that game though.

I still don't mind another loss, btw.  Nice to have some competitive games!

on Jan 16, 2010

Alright Pacov, I played some more games today because fresher replays are better then digging something up where it is a one sided match. Now I won a few matches as rook, won with TB carrying his weight. But they are your generic team matches and I don't care about them, hell I doubt you want to watch them all.

Although the replay I will posting is actually of me losing lol, me pugging against my team mates (Renz and McShane lol (Plus dundoon)). Now you probably know that Renz and McShane are badass, so it is understandable why I lost. However I do a damn good QoT in the process, I'm sure everyone can appericate a QoT that doesn't die all game. I think it is an enjoyable match.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107225

Enjoy to all who watch it.

on Jan 16, 2010

bam.  I watch... it looks good, you = 1st tier 1 on the list.  All will fear you and cower in your presence

edit - to clarify - if I watch it and it looks good, you go to tier 1 on the list.

on Jan 16, 2010

Here's one for you Pacov, http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107234.

This is why NinkiCZ should also be in tier 1.

on Jan 16, 2010

that makes 3  i need to watch tomorrow.  Thanks!

 

on Jan 16, 2010

I'll check it out.  Thanks!

 

HEY - any of you folks still checking out this thread and being all MEH! - here's a thought.  Please consider it.  Let's play some games together.  I've been hosting Pug games.  These are Pick Up Games. That means I'm not playing a game directly with someone I regularly play with.  This also means I'm willing to balance teams out. And I mean quite literally, I WILL ask before lauching a game if you think teams are fair.  YOU simply need to speak up.  If you join one of my pug games (labeled XvX PUG), I'm quite happy to balance teams.  So, if you see one of my games up and want to play with or against, please join.  You win, you'll get a win.  You lose, I won't be making a forum post busting your chops or picking on you in game. I'm just looking forward to getting more games in and playing with more people.  Because I've been pushing this alot more lately, I've been getting to play with some great players that I've never experienced before and been getting more challenging games going.  And, as a big bonus to me, more people are willing to play with and against me when I try to get a premade game going.  The big rule is - try to have fun.  Accept that even if you are the world's best dg player - you will lose sometimes - and even because you may have made a mistake. Happens to all of us.  I'm not making a claim to be the worlds' best dg player, but you can't either if all you do is pick on weaker players

on Jan 16, 2010

Oh boy, me and kira just had a battle. I finally have a decent replay of my oak vs some competitive players. Kira's beast was beastly as usual and my oak did some work. Enjoy.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107236

Really intense flag locking all over the map craziness. Awesome teleports on all sides, quality ganks and effort. This game was a pleasure to play in, most fun I have had in a long time.

on Jan 16, 2010

McShane87
Here's one for you Pacov, http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107234.

This is why NinkiCZ should also be in tier 1.

This game is a poor example imo, peter and star argued the whole game while I was shaking my head with the lack of sigils our UB used. Peter was countered by the erebus leveling up mass charm and Ninki got away a few times when he shouldn't have. Oh well.

on Jan 16, 2010

jerk... i already have 3 to watch tomorrow... 4 it is then

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