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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on Apr 29, 2010

^You should leave maggie out of this. He's had a tough night. Hedgie still needs to send his personal condolences.

on Apr 29, 2010

perhaps it will just be Orcun carrying me through this tournament.

hehe - I think will will have some fun bragging rights after the toruney (whoever wins, that is ).

 

on Apr 29, 2010

Aaah I've been removed, I'm still active pacov!

on Apr 29, 2010

me too

on Apr 29, 2010

He had a tough night over losing a game of demigod? How much more lame can you get? 

on Apr 29, 2010

He's lost tons of games, I'm sure that's not why he's upset ;;

on Apr 29, 2010

If ya wanna hear something bad about that game Pacov:

At the start, I was telling Cow "I'm gunna get Pacov to interrupt a whole bunch of obvious fireballs to run him OOM"

Aaaaaaand it was working...but then I realized that if I juked it...you'd spend the mana and I'd get the fireball! I guess I was higher then I thought.

on Apr 29, 2010

pacov - condolences, it's never easy

On topic:

Got a game with TupacMike yesterday.  He's from way back, and just got into it again.  The game we played he wasn't Tier 2, had some real issues with his Rook build and playstyle, but once he gets the rust off he should be up there so keep your eyes out for him and see what you think. 

Also in that game: STFNG - this guy is completely solid.  His map awareness is great, he plays multiple DGs very well.  Every time we play I'm confident he will do exactly what he needs to.  He should be Tier 2, absolutely.

Also from that game, Dundoon - I haven't played with this guy enough to judge, but I was impressed by his UB play.  His team lost, but in a game where everyone else had 15-25 flag caps he had *40.*  That's not something I see often. 

I'll post the replay at a later date, but keep your eyes out for these guys.

One thing playing with old-timers - the meta in this game moves subtly, but it becomes really clear that the community has upped its play when you see ancient, once-respected builds completely fail ^^ 

Cheers

on Apr 29, 2010

One thing playing with old-timers - the meta in this game moves subtly, but it becomes really clear that the community has upped its play when you see ancient, once-respected builds completely fail ^^ 

 

Absolutely, though it's a bit sad when you see the old timer dusting up a minion build and then getting absolutely smoked by someone playing UB with health stacking and sigils. Seriously UB is so simple and so incredibly OP, you can't be really good with UB, you know that health>all, and how to rightclick.

on Apr 29, 2010

lifekatana
One thing playing with old-timers - the meta in this game moves subtly, but it becomes really clear that the community has upped its play when you see ancient, once-respected builds completely fail ^^ 

 

Absolutely, though it's a bit sad when you see the old timer dusting up a minion build and then getting absolutely smoked by someone playing UB with health stacking and sigils. Seriously UB is so simple and so incredibly OP, you can't be really good with UB, you know that health>all, and how to rightclick.

Unless you are the proper rook build, and then you can beat UB 1on1 no matter how much health stacking he does. You need super UB skill to beat super rook skill.

on Apr 29, 2010

Aaah I've been removed, I'm still active pacov!

welcome back.    I'll get ya back on there.  I only remove folks that go on hiatus for > 30 days.  Adding you back to the list.  Adding _Jona to tier 2.  

Also in that game: STFNG - this guy is completely solid. His map awareness is great, he plays multiple DGs very well. Every time we play I'm confident he will do exactly what he needs to. He should be Tier 2, absolutely.

Anyone second this?  Can't say I remember STFNG if I'd played w/ or against him. 

If ya wanna hear something bad about that game Pacov:
At the start, I was telling Cow "I'm gunna get Pacov to interrupt a whole bunch of obvious fireballs to run him OOM"
Aaaaaaand it was working...but then I realized that if I juked it...you'd spend the mana and I'd get the fireball! I guess I was higher then I thought.

That is one of the funner parts of being a tb vs an oak.  Plus because you had a little advantage with teams, you were going to be in a position to do whatever you wanted. 

on Apr 29, 2010

Pacov I remember that game. I took something you said wrong and I got a bit angry but after words you said you didn't mean it like that and I was fine. That game with Xynth was totally the Oculus's fault because he had no HP and you were the only tank running around.

I don't have any issues with you pacov. I love playing with you and a lot of the thing I say on Vent are not ment to be taken seriously.

I hope I see you online in the next few days.

 

on Apr 29, 2010

I'll second STFNG. He has a good Oak.

on Apr 29, 2010

GM-NinkiCZ
I'll second STFNG. He has a good Oak.

ok - tier 2 then based on your guys recommendations. 

Off topic - I was looking at the opengames.asp last night at around 2am or so (the joys of working oncall means my sleep schedule gets jacked to hell sometimes).  Anyway, there were a total of 34 people playing.  34 people on planet earth... I think about 10 of them were from the lagwars crowd.  I know that time wasn't peak or anything, but I do wish we could get more folks into our community. 

on Apr 29, 2010

If you guys can find so much drama in a RTS game like Demigod, I don't ever want to play with you guys in a MMO.

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