Whatever McShane has with you is between you two, but Omicron is not our clans founder. He's the founder of gL.

yea i just remembered that, sorry.

^It's such a genuine sigh. I actually don't know anyone that can sigh as well as him.

No need to apologize. Oh but what you can do is come back on vent

I personally do miss you, although we don't really know each other... but I still do miss seeing your name.

PS. Pacov, if I can get half the Tier 1's to vouch for Mith to be in Tier 1, would that work? I'll just get confirmation from Shane, Orcun, magnus, Janook, renz, and me. Even though cow hates him, I'm sure even he would admit that mith should be up there.

I don't really understand what you are saying here.  You got angry when I wouldn't come to the mana flag after getting mid when I was heading to the HP flag.  I explained my reasoning why i think what you had in mind was a bad idea. 

Again - I'm not sure what you are referring to.  We were on forces of dark.  You were trying to get me to push the MANA flag in the situation I described.  Not the HP flag. 

Oh yes, I know that.  But the reg on my team didn't have enough money when we hit level 3 for some reason.  And, again referring to events that you don't seem to remember, I asked who's buying currency at level 2.  We hit level 3, I said guess I'll need to get it.  30 seconds go by and I buy currency when I see you having around 1100 gold.  You could have replied then.  And I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were just a little short.  I definitely asked who's buying in chat.  You said nothing.  I definitely indicated that i would when no one replied.  Of course me spending money on myself would have helped.  Try not to miss the fact that we were likely going to lose the game going in.  You realized that, right?

I disagree. Anytime I pug, I don't use vent.  I do quite well without my pals.  I think you might need vent - probably would have responded to me asking in game who's buying currency. 

Good regs need you to tell them to snipe apparently? 

2 times in the game about flags.  The rest of the complaining belonged to you.  And you did quite a bit of it. 

Then don't do it yourself.  I bought currency, after all. 

Well - we do disagree on the tier 1 status.  But your are certainly right in not caring if you are on the list.  Its just a list and my opinion of your play style is not meant to be offensive. 

Xynth - you make excellent points about the game simply being a game that should be played just to have fun.  Some of us take the game much more seriously than we should.  No one should get bitched out, as I have done in the past, simply because they make a decision I don't agree with. It's quite rude and childish. I don't believe I bitched you out a single time in the game.  You explained why you had such a negative reaction - fair enough.  And you are generally a great teammate.  I still won't agree with some of your tactical decisions and you won't agree with some of mine. 

Exactly.  I learned that lesson already.  I assume you don't really want to be in the same boat, though. 

hmm... guess how many tier 1's agree with me...

I'm really the only one that needs convincing at this point.  I know he's in your clan and you guys will go to bat for him.  Fair enough there, but what's he got?  He plays a great assassin style oak in 2v2.  What else am I missing?  I'm sure must be acting very shortsighted on this cause either he's great and I'm missing it or he's not and you guys are just backing him up.  I'm quite happy to move him up to tier 1... hmmm... seems like we always get to this part of the conversation... I'll try to be on a bunch tonight and tomorrow... mayhaps we can bottom this out quickly.  On the pro side, I do consider him to be great in 2v2 as an oak like i said. 

I like how GM has majority rule of deciding who is on Tier 1...

^Be less anti-social and you'll have half your clan up there too.

I didn't play well, but Obiwhan is a terrible Rook, the fact that he wanted to go to the mana flag to fight Oculus instead of helping push rook on the HP flag at the start of the game says it all.  And the game wasn't really mith's fault, it was mine from being too aggressive.  But it was still a fine game until Jona's triple smite sent it all down hill.  Also, I think this is the very next game http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1362055/player/35153/.  Mith actually had a decent rook holding HP so he proceeded to single handedly own the other team with 7 kills in like a 12 minute game.  

Obiwhan gets Scaled Helm + Plate Visor as a BotS Rook. 

That is all. 

Lol does he ever.

And Duelist Cuirass with Erebus.

But he does have the basic skills down. Item orders are easy to tweak.

Besides, you probably would've been fine if you took advantage of the rook, depending on how he set up his towers. According to hedgie, it's called "baby-sitting" but according to me it's called "a gift."

There's babysitting and there is "the other team's number one priority is kill the rook over and over".

This is pretty normal and I'm find on double-porting to a Rook's towers to get kills. Not my problem. This is especially true if I'm Oak. However, twice that game you walked up out of your farm against a team of speed stackers to place one tower up by their gold tower. This resulted in their entire team converging in on you, and both of us burning ports and you a sigil in an attempt to keep you alive. This rarely netted us kills and they frequently won "the consumable war" as 2 ports + 1 sigil >= 1 or 2 sigils.

The tower at the gold is to force them to tp, because all of them have to waste a tp to come over, and the two of you would require to tp to come for a kill. I might've used a sigil once or twice but I always use them sparingly so I have enough money to get myself better items - which I still ended up getting the full set with no kills.

If they were going speed build, then their hp is low, which means they wouldn't be able to hold the 3 of us for too long. Once they run away, that's when you start pushing their portal towers. Basic strategy 101.

Not really having to port on you. Usually they would just come from the gold flag and two were in the middle capping XP and saw you overextended. Rook is slow, they are fast and Fire Aura makes them faster.

I do understand we won most/all of those engagements so it's not like we lost the game because you were doing what we did. But sometimes I like to do things like farm or cap flags instead of porting to save you with little to no mana and it is frustrating leaving creepwaves with tons of XP and gold because you decided to walk up to a tower. 

End result: Their DA is at level 15 while I'm 12 and he starts farming the entire map.

You may have had plenty of money to get yourself better items but we didn't. We weren't running around with Orbs. 'Course the game did last long enough that I did get some nice stuff but that was mostly towards the end.

I'm not blaming the game on you or anything. And I do expect having to port in to save you a few times a game: you're Rook. I'm simply saying, you were frustrating to play with because you kept walking out of your farm in an attempt to "get a kill" when we weren't getting kills: simply dogpiling in one corner of the map and not leveling up.