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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 11, 2010

OMD_Siili
I struggle because he is as boring as ****.

Well that doesn't mean you CAN'T play him. Case solved.

on May 11, 2010

nominating peterdumptruck for Tier2.  He consistently plays in high rank games and has gotten considerably better since he started hanging out on vent.  He's starting to branch out from just playing minions as well.. and while his assassin erebus isn't amazing, it's coming along.  Only good chars are oak and erebus tho.  

 

on May 11, 2010

^I think the problem with him is that he himself also causes too many losses for the team, which in turn would put him out of any tiers.

on May 11, 2010

RAWRRRR
nominating peterdumptruck for Tier2.  He consistently plays in high rank games and has gotten considerably better since he started hanging out on vent.  He's starting to branch out from just playing minions as well.. and while his assassin erebus isn't amazing, it's coming along.  Only good chars are oak and erebus tho.  

 

+1 for rawrrrr + anyone else getting peter to play things other than minion builds.    I'm glad he made the jump and is playing more often in vent. 

Any seconds for peter to tier 2?

 

on May 11, 2010

I'll second that.

on May 11, 2010

My problem with Peter is that he concedes when anything is going even slightly wrong (IE, his team is 1 tower down).  I don't care if you are god himself, I don't want you on my team if you aren't going to even try.

on May 11, 2010

Also, going down the t1 list I can see reasons to remove everyone, including myself, except for Orcun. 

I vote Orcun #1 MVP key-All-Star Demigod Player.

on May 11, 2010

GM-MAGNUS333
My problem with Peter is that he concedes when anything is going even slightly wrong (IE, his team is 1 tower down).  I don't care if you are god himself, I don't want you on my team if you aren't going to even try.

I don't know if Pete is still like that. I'd always groan if i had Pete on my team especially in high level games as it meant I'd have to compensate for a minion build AND a player that would likely give up or whine if things didn't go our way... that's 2 strikes against the dude before a game even begins.  I really dislike it when players are inflexible (especially if I am playing with them alot)... in his case, it always meant a tier 1 dg was always going to be used up on a minion build (oak or erb)... which isn't so great against a strong team.  Now that he's using more characters and not sticking to only minion builds, well... I'm sure that makes a pretty big difference.  I think I had him on this list as tier 2 before though... and several of the lagwars folks shot him down... I figure RAWRRRR probably had similar concerns with games with Pete on his team in the past, but if he's thinking tier 2 is good for pete, then no problem here. 

Also, going down the t1 list I can see reasons to remove everyone, including myself, except for Orcun.

I vote Orcun #1 MVP key-All-Star Demigod Player.

I can only conclude that this has to be some sort of inside joke on behalf of GM.  Not to slight him as a tier 1 player, but he's on the list because of GM's endorsements - not because I ever saw him in any game as the Christ child.  Anyway, we'll have plenty of time to pick through the revised tier list after the tournament.  All of us tier 1's are going on the chopping block and we'll see who shakes out. 

on May 11, 2010

I agree with Magnus.

on May 11, 2010

GM-MAGNUS333
My problem with Peter is that he concedes when anything is going even slightly wrong (IE, his team is 1 tower down).  I don't care if you are god himself, I don't want you on my team if you aren't going to even try.

I have this problem with him as well.. but I'm convincing him to see that comebacks are possible no matter where you're at.  Also to stay positive even when you're down a couple deaths.  Anyway, there are several people on the current tier 2 list that I would put him over.

 

Edit:  Actually his minion builds aren't terrible.. even in high level play.  Plus, since joining vent, he'll actually buy cit upgrades, and now he almost always buys currency (never, ever happened before we mocked him repeatedly for never buying cit upgrades).  Idk I think I'm the only one that sticks up for him.. even tho usually I just yell at him.  w/e.  

on May 11, 2010

Idk I think I'm the only one that sticks up for him

naw - cow has been a longtime pete supporter.

on May 11, 2010


Idk I think I'm the only one that sticks up for him

naw - cow has been a longtime pete supporter.

not lately

on May 11, 2010

I still love peter even if he thinks he knows the game better than everyone else.

and he should be in tier 2.

on May 11, 2010

I vote Orcun #1 MVP key-All-Star Demigod Player.

 

That was true when he used to play like everyday but he is not as good as he was imo

on May 11, 2010

^The problem is that the number of serious games have significantly decreased, so you can't really witness where Orcun truly shines. While it's great to have variety, variety also makes it difficult to distinguish whether there was a character advantage or whether the player himself is actually better.

GM-MAGNUS333
Also, going down the t1 list I can see reasons to remove everyone, including myself, except for Orcun. 

I vote Orcun #1 MVP key-All-Star Demigod Player.

Magnus I told you the exact same thing last week! Great minds do think alike.

But it's no joke pacov.  

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