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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 20, 2010

But I feel as though this list is outdated.

The list is dated... I had hoped to get started on revamping it after the tourney ended (with the new tiers, blahblah), but the tourney is taking longer than I expected. 

on May 20, 2010

bumping again for Zen_God tier 1.  Some of the absolute best 2v2's I've done have been w/ or against him.

on May 20, 2010

Hell yeah Zen_God for tier one, he's better then most people in tier one so it is only right.

Most of the people who are in Tier 1 shouldn't be, mainly Ninki. Ninki can't main anything and he plays most gods poorly.

I mean the fact that 2nana is in tier 2 and Ninki is in Tier one just shows how much of a joke this list is.

on May 21, 2010

Boxxy_Koush
Hell yeah Zen_God for tier one, he's better then most people in tier one so it is only right.

Most of the people who are in Tier 1 shouldn't be, mainly Ninki. Ninki can't main anything and he plays most gods poorly.

I mean the fact that 2nana is in tier 2 and Ninki is in Tier one just shows how much of a joke this list is.

Team Nana strong;;

on May 21, 2010

Question:

PrizmSmurf, why is he on hated list for a one time comment?  I've played a bunch of PUGs with him and he's pleasant. 

 

BTW, -Heros- Temp deserves his own category.  Equal parts "skilled" and "spends an amazing amount of time floating through lobbies for a perfectly stacked game in his favor so he doesn't go down in ratio".  He plays quite well, but I gives me a smirk when he comes in the lobby.  I tell others he the fortune teller.  If he's on your team and stays, you're going to win.  If he's on your team and bails out, then the other team has at least a 2% ratio advantage.

 

on May 21, 2010

Thanks for the nomination Zex.  I appreciate it very much.  

However, I'm -obviously- Tier 1.723.

on May 21, 2010


Quoting Boxxy_Koush, reply 1338

Team Nana strong;;

no ENG;;

 

on May 21, 2010

Cind3rs
Question:

PrizmSmurf, why is he on hated list for a one time comment?  I've played a bunch of PUGs with him and he's pleasant. 

 

 

It wasn't a 1 time comment.  It happened multiple times, and it was both on invalid gamestates and incredibly rude comments.

on May 22, 2010

Boxxy_Koush

I mean the fact that 2nana is in tier 2 and Ninki is in Tier one just shows how much of a joke this list is.

2nana aside, at least I didn't have to flaunt myself and beg pacov to get put up on the list. In fact, I didn't have to do any sort of self-promotion.

Nor did I have to post a replay where it was essentially set up for you to look like a half decent player.

on May 22, 2010

Jona has some new replays up, one was sent in by Ninki too

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=index&tab_new=upcoming

on May 22, 2010

Good thing I have msn history saved on my computer just incase you pull off some nonsense like this.

on May 22, 2010

At least I had to demonstrate my talent with versatility, back when I thought this list was something more then a personality contest/let's not step on anyones toes event, my comments were made incredibly early back in this thread. You are one of the least versatile players and the only thing you know what to do is lane control. I also like how you completely refused to comment on the whole 2nana thing, not bothering to give the guy his dues.

NANA STRONG.

Btw, I watched that replay in which you BEGGED me to upload saying "Oh this is why Heroes-Temp is not tier one" and all sorts of rubbish, and wow, you played incredibly bad. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but you refused to admit that you played a part in the losing process, so if you really want me to upload that replay, I will be happy too, the replay that you said well everyone will agree with me. Cause in that replay, I really liked your no hp item approach, real tier 1 stuff. Just say if you want me to put up that replay that you are OH SO CONFIDENT ABOUT.

on May 22, 2010

You can post that replay up because it's not as embarrassing as the replay that you put up to try and showcase your talent. Getting 2 levels of mulch before getting any shamblers? Also, how many times did renz not attack you when you were right beside him? Good thing I don't have to put up a sham of a replay.

I didn't know versatility meant playing a flawed QoT.

Oh and please do post up that replay. For some reason I should be hp stacking even though you guys went for heros every single time.

on May 22, 2010

And I've already explained why 2nana and heros do not belong in Tier 1. You commend them on their "versatility" yet they are the least versatile players I have ever seen. They follow one pattern, and if that pattern is broken they don't adjust, they just continue with their pattern.

This isn't a game for robots. You actually need some sort of common sense.

Oh and let me show you what begging is:

Boxxy_Koush

I know this again is me in my premade, but dog is the other character besides Oak I play great. I play all gods well (Expect minion builds) but this is the most recent replay I could dig out that shows off a classy dog control.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=106638

Boxxy_Koush
Am I tier one yet?

OMG_pacov

nope.  I'd still like to see a replay with you using other dgs well.  You left enough of an impression with me to get a nomination, but, as the silly definition stands above...

Boxxy_Koush


Also, it is pretty annoying to beat pretty much every premade there is with almost all characters, but because you guys want replays I get stuck in the mud. I only save my 2 v 2 replays, and I only use Rook, tb, QoT in 3 v 3.

I might do some 3 v 3's tonight and get some replays with QoT and TB. Just to please the crowd.

Boxxy_Koush
Alright Pacov, I played some more games today because fresher replays are better then digging something up where it is a one sided match. Now I won a few matches as rook, won with TB carrying his weight. But they are your generic team matches and I don't care about them, hell I doubt you want to watch them all.

Although the replay I will posting is actually of me losing lol, me pugging against my team mates (Renz and McShane lol (Plus dundoon)). Now you probably know that Renz and McShane are badass, so it is understandable why I lost. However I do a damn good QoT in the process, I'm sure everyone can appericate a QoT that doesn't die all game. I think it is an enjoyable match.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=107225

Enjoy to all who watch it.

And then lifekatana and hedgie points out some legit flaws about your build and then you go on and call lifekatana a troll, and brush off their comments. Those posts themselves take up 2 pages.

Boxxy_Koush
"Oh this is why Heroes-Temp is not tier one" and all sorts of rubbish,

This is not begging. I wonder what "all sorts of rubbish" you're referring to because I am pretty sure it was one sentence.

From looking through the pages, I haven't even seen one person nominate you for Tier 1, nor even agree with pacov's decision to put you in tier 1. I had 5 counts for NinkiCZ from the few pages I've read, and not once did I mention myself or even put up a replay of myself. Maybe I missed it though, I could be wrong.

on May 22, 2010

THIS GAME IS NOT FOR ROBOTS?!

*uninstall*

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