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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 24, 2010

I agree with koush on this one. Even though shamblers/mulch gives you certain advantages, mulch and shamblers slow down qot a lot as well and not using it doesn't really matter that much unless you playing a 2v2 or 1v1. The mulch becomes more handy for 2v2s and 1v1s.

on May 24, 2010

The only time I play QoT is in the tournament and I don't believe I've used mulch once so far.  Therefore I agree as well. 

on May 25, 2010

Oh great, I wrote a reply and then it never posted. Wow so much for wasting my time.

on May 25, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ
Oh great, I wrote a reply and then it never posted. Wow so much for wasting my time.

if you dare to use firefox, download lazarus... its an add on that keeps that ensures that even if forums go boom, etc, you can still recover your post... highly useful for forum nerdery. 

on May 25, 2010

Lifekatana would have a stroke if he read some of this shit.

Cow has the best QoT build now, let's see if he agrees and uses it in the tourney.

I'll also add that getting interrupted changing forms is a death sentence because all sorts of bugs happen in laggy games.

on May 25, 2010

LORD-ORION
Lifekatana would have a stroke if he read some of this shit.

Cow has the best QoT build now, let's see if he agrees and uses it in the tourney.

I'll also add that getting interrupted changing forms is a death sentence because all sorts of bugs happen in laggy games.

I am afraid you are incorrect.  Though I do not even know what it is; as the only QoT's still left in the tournament, either Rawrr or I have the best build, you can't argue with results!  Cow was beat in the first round like a month ago. 

on May 25, 2010

GM-McShane87



Quoting LORD-ORION,
reply 1385
Lifekatana would have a stroke if he read some of this shit.

Cow has the best QoT build now, let's see if he agrees and uses it in the tourney.

I'll also add that getting interrupted changing forms is a death sentence because all sorts of bugs happen in laggy games.


I am afraid you are incorrect.  Though I do not even know what it is; as the only QoT's still left in the tournament, either Rawrr or I have the best build, you can't argue with results!  Cow was beat in the first round like a month ago. 

Well now don't I feel stupid(again), cheering for a team that is no longer in the playoffs.

Also, to clarify, I wasn't talking about his original build, I gave him the Lifekatana build yeserday in exchange for spitless beast build. (secret builds, the trading game heh)

 

on May 25, 2010

OMG_pacov
if you dare to use firefox, download lazarus... its an add on that keeps that ensures that even if forums go boom, etc, you can still recover your post... highly useful for forum nerdery. 

Firefox has too many buttons.

I'll rewrite what I wrote when I feel like wasting time but it's probably not going to make a difference.

on May 25, 2010

LORD-ORION

Well now don't I feel stupid(again), cheering for a team that is no longer in the playoffs.

Also, to clarify, I wasn't talking about his original build, I gave him the Lifekatana build yeserday in exchange for spitless beast build. (secret builds, the trading game heh)

Who in the world is lifekatana?  I just did a quick check and he's played queen of thorns once since January and lost, his build is irrelevant. 

And lol cow gave you his secret no spit beast build? There's really nothing special about it (just stats and diseased claws instead of spit)  making it work is more about the style of play, following through with your kills instead of relying on spit and timing your grasps right is even more important.  The ultimate goal of the build is to get Journeyman Treads because of all the overextending you have to do.  Then later in the game mage slayer to make up for the damage you're losing out on without spit and to make your auto attack useful. 

on May 26, 2010

GM-McShane87



Quoting LORD-ORION,
reply 1385
Lifekatana would have a stroke if he read some of this shit.

Cow has the best QoT build now, let's see if he agrees and uses it in the tourney.

I'll also add that getting interrupted changing forms is a death sentence because all sorts of bugs happen in laggy games.


I am afraid you are incorrect.  Though I do not even know what it is; as the only QoT's still left in the tournament, either Rawrr or I have the best build, you can't argue with results!  Cow was beat in the first round like a month ago. 

First round? take a look at the brakets again. I am sure my queen is just as good as rawrr's or your build. I am sure they are almost exactly the same as well amongst the 3.

on May 26, 2010

Well,...

I just won a game ( as bots UB) along Bellach (erebus) and an AI (rook, soccer-mom dropped in min7-8), against Rawr (tb), Teseer (cloak erebus) and Peterdumptruck (Oculus). Yes, you read well, 2v3, with an AI rook. ^^

Now, i don't know if this qualifies me for T1 by your standards pacov, and i don't really give a shit honestly , as imho there are several guys as good as those in your "T1" list that aren't there cos they just don't play in the closed circle you're entrenching yourselves in....  

BUT, if you want this list to have any kind of value, you should definitely at least include Bellach in your T2 list, since he managed to win this game along me and AI rook against 3 players that are already on your list, including a T1 player.

Game was this, http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1393422/player/80976/, and i saved the replay too, if u want to see it i'll upload it to GR. Be advised though, it's not really a great game, but a great lesson on map control by 2 players ( me and bellach), a why-cloak-erebus-just-doesnt-cut-it, and a guide on how not to play oculus.

Sorry, but i couldn't resist posting it,specially for the shit soccer-mom was giving me before he dropped, for not having a tp to go help him and ere after buying curr .

on May 26, 2010

lol.. the replay is definitely worth watching to see an occulus never use blast off once, sell everything to get creeps (aka walking around with 2 items the rest of the game), doesn't use sigils, 2 generals who don't get clerics / monks, an occulus who focuses on taking out an ai only and complains that it doesn't give him gold, a beast that buys cur1, an erebus and an occulus who get cloak against a team they need botf.. I'm too lazy to go on, but don't worry there is more available.

 

Also, name someone you think should be tier 1 that isn't and why.

on May 26, 2010

RAWRRRR
lol.. the replay is definitely worth watching to see an occulus never use blast off once, sell everything to get creeps (aka walking around with 2 items the rest of the game), doesn't use sigils, 2 generals who don't get clerics / monks, an occulus who focuses on taking out an ai only and complains that it doesn't give him gold, a beast that buys cur1, an erebus and an occulus who get cloak against a team they need botf.. I'm too lazy to go on, but don't worry there is more available.

Ok but you see, that's why Peter is not very good. He lacks basic common sense.

Oh but LORD is correct, lifekatana did have a fantastic Queen.

on May 26, 2010

oh? http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1392408/player/36105/

^^ that game made me rofl.  Wtf happened?

Peter isn't good @ occulus, completely agreed.  But he plays fine with erebus, oak, and qot

on May 26, 2010

You weren't there, so I'm not sure what makes you rofl.

And I thought we were beyond cherry picking, but I suppose I expected too much. 

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