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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 

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on May 26, 2010

it makes me rofl because the people on your team and the people on peter's team along with a qot alongside peter (which Peter said did minions lol).

It always makes me smile when he wins against people who don't think he's good (you) and refuse to play on his team (Jona).  That game moreso because I NEVER would have imagined peter's team would win.

Anyway.. I wouldn't have resorted to cherry picking.. but .. you then said he wasn't good.  You get what comes around!

 

on May 26, 2010

He isn't good, he lacks common sense. That's a general statement based on the choices that he made - not because he lost the game. I didn't resort to cherry picking and I'm not making a big deal about it.

It's like how you were quick to criticize why Jona isn't Tier 1 although he posted up 6 replays of him beating Tier 1s. While it's easy to point out other people's faults with their logic, you're being oblivious to your own.

on May 26, 2010

RAWRRRR
lol.. the replay is definitely worth watching to see an occulus never use blast off once, sell everything to get creeps (aka walking around with 2 items the rest of the game), doesn't use sigils, 2 generals who don't get clerics / monks, an occulus who focuses on taking out an ai only and complains that it doesn't give him gold, a beast that buys cur1, an erebus and an occulus who get cloak against a team they need botf.. I'm too lazy to go on, but don't worry there is more available.

 

Also, name someone you think should be tier 1 that isn't and why.

I told ya man, but i'll repeat it: I.don't.give.a.shit   . This whole list thing is ridiculous, i've said it quite a few times, but as it stands, i'm trying to make the most fun of it. And as i knew posting about that game would kinda piss you  , i'm trying to xploit it

A (oh my god! ) T1 player, along some respected players losing to 2 "lesser" ( ) players and an AI rook ( ), that is, even worse than 2v3, kind of proves my point of how ridiculous you and your pennis-rubbing list is

IF i took this list as seriously as you and followed your advice, i'd name myself for example. I actually did in a joking way some time ago, and pacov actually asked me to provide him proof of my awesomeness, serious business i tell ya (no offense pacov, i love ya ). There's been quite a few games i could have saved and uploaded to pleasure pacov's demands, but as i couldn't care less, i just didn't take the effort.

This last game of ours kinda reminded me of pacovs requests, so i couldnt resist mentioning it for the fucks of it.

Now, let me tell ya sumthing, it's quite sad that a list that tries to be serious about the best players in this small community, is then made by the EVEN SMALLER CIRCLE of players who are already on top of it and only play with and against themselves.  Let me laugh out loud at that

on May 26, 2010

I was "quick" to criticize Jona because Jona approached Pacov about being on Tier 1 and Pacov specifically asked for feedback on opinions about Jona.  I gave my opinions.. which were completely unrelated to the replays he posted.. but yes, I did dismiss every single one of them, as most of them are not surprising at all in the outcome (a noob on the other team or bad demigod selection).  Why he complained about my opinion of him when he asked for it is beyond me.  Did I think that his cherry picking showed that he was worthy of Tier 2?  Yes.. I did and I mentioned that.

 

So.. I don't see where you're going with that?  Are you saying you think Jona is Tier 1 now?  Mildly confused.. but it is 6 a.m.

on May 26, 2010

nomilarac

Now, let me tell ya sumthing, it's quite sad that a list that tries to be serious about the best players in this small community, is then made by the EVEN SMALLER CIRCLE of players who are already on top of it and only play with and against themselves.  Let me laugh out loud at that

lol all you want, you're still not on the list and it's not because we haven't played against you.  I've played with a LOT of people.. not just solely with and against the other people on Tier 1.  Do I prefer to play with / against those people?  Yes, I enjoy a good game.  That's kind of the point.  But I would be surprised if you mentioned someone who's very good and I have never played with or against them.

 

You still haven't mentioned anyone you think should be on Tier 1 and isn't and why you think they should be Tier 1.  It sounds like you're just bitching to bitch.

on May 26, 2010

I would like to ask about Chur86. I played with him some time and each time he's loosing, when the citadel is down he just quit. Maybe he try to do invalid or bug game that doest count. Just want to know if u get this when u played with Chur86. If yes, maybe put him on person to be avoid !!

If this "quit" when the citadel is destroy does no crash, game doesnt count or invalid, then i apologise for this. Otherwise, avoid him to previent invalid and game crash.

on May 26, 2010

OMG_ZEX

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 1386


Quoting LORD-ORION,
reply 1385
Lifekatana would have a stroke if he read some of this shit.

Cow has the best QoT build now, let's see if he agrees and uses it in the tourney.

I'll also add that getting interrupted changing forms is a death sentence because all sorts of bugs happen in laggy games.


I am afraid you are incorrect.  Though I do not even know what it is; as the only QoT's still left in the tournament, either Rawrr or I have the best build, you can't argue with results!  Cow was beat in the first round like a month ago. 

First round? take a look at the brakets again. I am sure my queen is just as good as rawrr's or your build. I am sure they are almost exactly the same as well amongst the 3.

You're too late here Cow, I've already exclaimed that you can't argue with results. 

on May 26, 2010

OMG_NinkiCZ

It's like how you were quick to criticize why Jona isn't Tier 1 although he posted up 6 replays of him beating Tier 1s. While it's easy to point out other people's faults with their logic, you're being oblivious to your own.

Can we look forward to team Jona/Ninki if there is another tournament?

on May 26, 2010

 

RAWRRRR

lol all you want, you're still not on the list and it's not because we haven't played against you.  

Haha, aawwwwww man you're gonna make me cry and beg . No, you've barely played with or against me, from T1 i've only played semi-frequently with Hedgie and Cow, cos they're the only who "go down your pedestals"    to play PUG games. And Cow has proposed me for T1 a pair of times already, but nevermind that.

I've played with a LOT of people.. not just solely with and against the other people on Tier 1.  Do I prefer to play with / against those people?  Yes, I enjoy a good game.  That's kind of the point.  But I would be surprised if you mentioned someone who's very good and I have never played with or against them.


Yeah right.... The way i see this list, T1 indicates players (with aforementioned exceptions) that only play with other top players in their teams, or a few selected T2 players IF on voice communication. T2 players just aren't that afraid of losing or whatever, and play any reasonably balanced game they can, so i'm kinda proud of being part of it, along guys as Alterschism, Atma, Celmare, Grahf, Kira, Naur, Shred, ThunderCles, Zoahr, etc....

You still haven't mentioned anyone you think should be on Tier 1 and isn't and why you think they should be Tier 1.  It sounds like you're just bitching to bitch.

Yes I did, myself . Pls reread my previous post, i don't think my english is THAT bad. But nevermind that, i'd rather be where i am or out of this silly list entirely, i just don't care.

on May 26, 2010

just to chime in here... I haven't really made any changes to the list recently... I'm planning on waiting for the tourney to finish and then starting an overhall... or abandoning this silly list completely...

on May 26, 2010

According to the Tier list GM still has a lot of members 

on May 26, 2010

Wow nom, I've never seen someone use the   emoticon before.

Now someone needs to find a way to cleverly use this one:  

on May 26, 2010

The troll emoticon works well by itself if you don't feel like writing a paragraph long response to an obvious troll post. The pizza one makes me too hungry though. 

on May 26, 2010

That's a pizza?!

I thought it was a face covered in roses.

on May 26, 2010

If pizza faces make you hungry, you should of seen me in Middle School. You'd be fuckin starving. 

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