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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Aug 15, 2012

I am guilty of bitching more than my fair share tonight...I don't even think I was nice in the game we won :/

I actually do not think Karl's bitching is that bad. Sometimes it even helps me to see what I need to be doing, but as Karl pointed out we have 2 types of gamers and getting critisized and trying to improve with it instead of taking it personally is more often than not the more competetive group. I *should* refuse to play when I am sick and have a headache though. I doubt anyone that had to be with me in vent tonight was happy about it.

on Aug 15, 2012

I think that the bitching is really a symptom rather than the problem itself.  In pretty much any game, you will have people playing for different reasons.  In the case of LoL, you have people who want to get better every game and frequently think about ways to improve.  But you also have people who just want to relax from a long day at work and go pewpew.

 

Ranked and un-ranked.

on Aug 15, 2012

I accept blame for my horrible Darius play. I had about 250 ping for the first 3-5min and Xin got a level on me, then I died in a close fight. That's what started the Xin snowball. To be honest, the game where I was Graves and stayed bot when we lost, I just didn't care anymore. The games had been so negative, I really wasn't interested in helping anyone else. If I did, blame would have been thrown around anyways. Terrible for the team, but that's how I felt. I don't even really talk in the games, because I feel there isn't much point. I'm either talking over Peter, or over bitching.

I may just sit out the next team night and hopefully be in a better head space next week.

on Aug 15, 2012

Possible next champ has been hinted upon.

Syndra.

She appears to be from the void and she has ability interactions with black holes that she places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KUTbtYXxEs&feature=player_embedded

on Aug 15, 2012

I can be a verbal punching bag.  Actually I don't think I get raged on enough.  In those fights people were saying to get corki, so when the fights broke out I went in and dazzled the corki.  But nunu comes and ults and everyone dies, and I felt like I shoulda saved my dazzle for that.  I think everyone should've been like OMG Bryff you suck what were you doing in that fight?! [no pun intended ].  Also it was funny when soraka used global heal and whoever it was thought it was me and was like I hate you Bryff

Void champs are insaner than those earthly target practice champs

on Aug 15, 2012

I can be a verbal punching bag. Actually I don't think I get raged on enough.

Well, I know you don't play a ton of support with me, etc, so I'm much more likely to give you tips or tell you what I want you to do (if I'm adc).  The odds of me raging on someone we haven't played a bunch with that's in voice chat with me are pretty low.  Now if we have a bunch of history together and you are doing silly things, that's when I tend to be a dick.  Even if you aren't perfect in various roles, I'm known you to be pretty responsive to suggestions and requests to handle things differently, so I really don't have any complaints about you at all. 

So... if we were to call out the regulars that do the bitching - pacov, peter, karl, and jack.  Jona would be on this list for sure if he joined voice chat.  Am I missing anyone that's typically with the rage filled group?  Jack's normally not that bad, but has been much worse lately, karl goes into broken record mode, pete is pete, and the majority of my bitching is just stupid.  Karl and jack will likely reel themselves in a bit after this little thread discussion.  I really have no idea how to sort pete, though.  Will have to play that by ear. 

Anyway, please do you part to try to help out and get us into a less bitchy atmosphere.  The best way will likely be to directly (if you are NOT involved in the conflict) speak up and say that you think X person is being a little too negative and repeat yourself a few times.  Some folks hate confrontation, but that will likely sort me out if I'm being a jackass in the future. 

 

on Aug 15, 2012

AragornV
I accept blame for my horrible Darius play. I had about 250 ping for the first 3-5min and Xin got a level on me, then I died in a close fight. That's what started the Xin snowball. To be honest, the game where I was Graves and stayed bot when we lost, I just didn't care anymore. The games had been so negative, I really wasn't interested in helping anyone else. If I did, blame would have been thrown around anyways. Terrible for the team, but that's how I felt. I don't even really talk in the games, because I feel there isn't much point. I'm either talking over Peter, or over bitching.

I may just sit out the next team night and hopefully be in a better head space next week.

Meh, it was fine.  I honestly don't mind if somebody just loses a lane every once in a while.  It happens to everybody and there isn't any real correction much of the time.

What sets me off is mental mistakes over and over again.  Basically, if somebody has bad CS, whatever.  Thats a physical thing and the only correction is more practice.  But if somebody keeps wandering around and getting ganked for no reason, I get upset after about the 3rd time. 

So I honestly didn't really have a problem with your play.

on Aug 15, 2012

I can be a verbal punching bag.  Actually I don't think I get raged on enough.  In those fights people were saying to get corki, so when the fights broke out I went in and dazzled the corki.  But nunu comes and ults and everyone dies, and I felt like I shoulda saved my dazzle for that.  I think everyone should've been like OMG Bryff you suck what were you doing in that fight?! [no pun intended ].  Also it was funny when soraka used global heal and whoever it was thought it was me and was like I hate you Bryff

Void champs are insaner than those earthly target practice champs

You were doing fine.  Stunning Corki is OK - the ideal strategy was for me to stun Nunu with Bear stance since it doesn't use up my stun for Corki.  But stunning Nunu isn't a bad play either.  You were fine either way.  The problem was a series of questionable engages by somebody else.

on Aug 15, 2012

Those were some fun games.  Sorry I had to leave quick.

on Aug 16, 2012

Sorry I had to leave quick.

Same here.

Thanks for all the games last night.  So, bitching status report.  Vlad was bitching up a storm starting in game 1 - I should have been more aggressive and told him to knock it off.  He tapered off after a bit.  I get the feeling good ol pete doesn't like me all that much.   I think he was outright trying to insult me without provocation last night.  I ignored him instead of tearing him a new one.  And I was generally kind as a whole and managed to not be a jackass even though we had a few games where foolish, awful things were happening.  So, for me anyway.  I don't remember anyone else on my team being all that bitchy.

 

GJ with your taric last night, dax.  Gems are quite outrageous. 

on Aug 16, 2012

I tried to do better...

thanks!

 

I didn't notice much whining from anyone, so good job to everyone!

on Aug 16, 2012

Holy crap am I tired....

So, any thoughts on in house game team balancing?  We doing a better job or are we still rot?

Anyone have feedback AFTER playing or kat and garen's remakes? I didn't get a chance to try either one out.  I know vlad did not exactly have the best time with kat due to mad counterpicking in at least 1 game anyway. 

 

edit - also... wtf with that &#*(@&#*$& recorder?

on Aug 16, 2012

Just preordered guild wars 2 for $48.  Deal ends today

http://slickdeals.net/f/5044542-Guild-wars-2-48-is-alive-again-at-Green-Man-Gaming

 

on Aug 16, 2012

The new Kat is great. I am just really bad with her so far.

on Aug 16, 2012

forgot to post this - very much worth a look if you ever top lane...

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