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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Aug 09, 2012

Just a quick point to that pacov...before I read that I went up against Ahri mid who got mp boots and then negatron cloak, building up to abysmal scepter.  Although I didn't die much if I recall, that Ahri was super tanky against my abilities while I wasn't (They also lacked a jungler so the ahri grabbed blue all the time and spammed spells all over the place).  I'm thinking my Kass build will now be T1 boots>focus crystal>Rod of Ages>negatron cloak>abysmal scepter, with T2 boots in there somewhere.

on Aug 09, 2012

Happy to play some pick ups with you 

on Aug 10, 2012

thx for all the games.  Going out of tower ().  I'll be checking the forums at any rate.  cya fellas.

 

side note - I honestly think nunu top is a little op.  His nerfs were made to restore his counter jungling.  They did that to some degree.  But the other thing they did - made him a safe, roaming support and a virtually unkillable top lane that doesn't need to care about mana.  He's easily my fav top lane now and is fairly difficult to counter.  The only good thing is that he's still not extremely valuable in the team fight phase.  Don't get me wrong, he serves a purpose, but there are plenty of other solo tops that are more usefully in team fights than him.  I just love that I rarely need to even care about warding with him solo top.  You get ganked, you snowball whoever can f you up and then blood boil to safety or to reengage.  And you can play like a jackass, take a bunch of damage, then just heal it and snowball again.  It's like automatic favorable trades.  And its a solo top that I run a full support kit + masteries... and build THREE gps items.  Any character that can safely do all of that... and just randomly decide to go steal from the enemy jungle might just be a little op. 

pbe got updated with the new champion's splash screen and assets.  Here's a vid showing the model + kat's new model.

 

on Aug 10, 2012

I'm sorry for not being happy about some things tonight, but we REALLY need to make sure that people are listening to each other.  Its a really big deal.  There are a lot of things in this game that just require teamwork, and if we have people playing by themselves and instead of the team, it is going to frustrate everybody.  If somebody says "we need to be here", please, at least try and be there.

One team coordinating while your team is playing as individuals is one of the most frustrating things that can happen.

on Aug 10, 2012

I don't blame you for your frustration at all Karl, but maybe go easy on the whole blaming everyone thing for your jungle being slow in the one game, when it was 100% that random Gragas who ruined our game. KrdaxDrkrun and I should have responded faster, but honestly I was just stunned by the whole thing. I don't think I've seen that happen since I was below lvl 30. It really set the tone for the rest of the game and we were doomed to fail. 

As for the other game, KrdaxDrkrun and I were actually having a great game bot and I feel top and mid were really off the ball in terms of the counterjungling and ganks. That lost us the game, because Vlad had free reign of our jungle, even though Karl had warned it would happen. Top and mid really should have been ready to go to red and not being on vent is no excuse for not having map awareness or paying attention to your team mates, including pings.

I don't know if I would do another 5v5 inhouse Summoner's with a few randoms thrown in. I get why we do them (don't have 10 ppl), but when one team gets a fairly competent random and the other gets a non-leashing, psychotic rage quitter random, it really isn't fun. At least when it is people we know, they can be somewhat accountable for wrecking the game.

A side note, if one team is obviously dealing with a ragequitter or something else terrible, it might be nice to stop ganking the crap out of the people who have to put in the 20min. I mean if you can end the game, that's fine, but 4 man ganks bot when we have no mid player is just demoralizing on top of everything else.

on Aug 10, 2012

I've got a question for you guys.  I'm playing sivir with soraka on purple.  The blue is ezriel and yorick with shaco jungle.  The soraka buys that hp regen for philo and mana pot.  I buy boots and hp pots.  I'm playing tower hug because shaco has stealth and I don't want to die.  The soraka dies once and buys a philo.  I still play defensive because there are no wards.  They dive tower and I kill yorick, but we both die.  soraka buys boots and then ionian boots.  Also soraka took 17 cs that game (I guess I suck at cs so...) and didn't buy a single ward.  ever.  The next item soraka got was ruby crystal.  Soraka then blames me when I don't have money for bf, and I suck, and I should play support, or tank, and says don't got wards because no money (17 cs? really?).  So the question is was that soraka playing well?  I know I wasn't doing the best but shaco was legendary up in the other lanes and was really strong, and our wu jungle wasn't competent.  And, was I right to play defensive and hug tower?

on Aug 10, 2012

Supports should buy wards to SUPPORT their adc.  You should still pick them up from time to time

on Aug 10, 2012

Soraka bought the wrong items.

 

A good healing support takes the MP5 and wards, especially with that setting.  It's stupid not to have a ward up for the level 2 gank when you've got a Shaco jungle.  Sivir has no escape and niether does Soraka, compounding the very foolish decision.

 

That said, when you discover your support is a freaking retard that doesn't ward, beeline a lantern.  You can't tower hug all game and do anything but lose.  17 cs doesn't sound bad though.  Quite a reasonable amount to be gained when no one else is around to pick up the creep.  If it was 17 gained last hitting while you were in lane instead of harassing and trying to control the bush, that's a problem though.  I main 0 cs support Kayle in ranked, and that's actually my average cs score.  I also buy 20+ wards every game though, so...

on Aug 10, 2012

Anyone gonna host games tonight?  Feel free to invite me if so.

Later: Played a game with Peter and I failed when I saw the gank and warned the adc, but I still died.  And died pointlessly a few other times too.  I need some noob training I thinkz.

on Aug 11, 2012

I'm out of town for a few more days.  At Saratoga racetrack ATM.  

on Aug 11, 2012

Has there been a ui change recently?  My magic damage appears in red text instead of purple and I don't like it.

I won a game with Peter today!!

Edit: Oh that's what legacy damage text does.

on Aug 12, 2012

Ui changes ere mentioned 4 beta.  Garen rework also live there.  back tomorrow evening

on Aug 13, 2012

k - back in town  - be on later tonight.

on Aug 14, 2012

Anyone play the new character on PBE yet?  Also, is the patch live?

 

on Aug 14, 2012

I've watched people do it, and no, the patch is not live.

 

When I watched, my friend was able to nuke people for 7.1 times his attack damage.

He one-shotted a Malphite who was building armor. I believe that Rengar needs quite a bit of balancing...

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