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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Aug 28, 2012

welcome, nilles.  If you are new to the game, I personally wouldn't recommend Rengar as one of your first few buys.  You are probably better off picking up a few cheaper (ip) characters and learning how to use them and the various roles.   If you are anything like me when I just started off, you'll likely hop from character to character for awhile.  If you aren't playing on paying real money at this point, I'd suggest maybe picking up either a 4800 or 3150 champ.  Oh - and just so you know, Rengar will be free to play pretty soon, so if you wait a bit, you'll be able to try him out.

There is also the public beta environment.  If you download that, you could play him today and see what you think for free.  Just google pbe lol or something to that effect.  You'll essentially have to download another LoL game entirely, though (PBE exists as a standalone apart from your lol installation).

re: tips - Be sure to get your free riot girl trist (its a skin + the character) and ali.  Free is nice.  I have some instuctions in the op if you have not already unlocked them.

on Aug 28, 2012

My first champs were, in this order:

Cho'Gath

Kassadin

Ryze

Sivir

Tristana

Alistar

Ahri ** try after you feel comfortable with the game

 

I think you may want to try some of these guys out.

 

also, what is thy in-game name?

on Aug 28, 2012

I would get a few champs for each role.  Try Taric for support (a stun and a heal=more room for mistakes) and malphite for top, and alistar for support/jungle.  For the others just try someone.  Once you feel like you like a certain role better, get a couple more champs that you might like for it, regardless of the price.  I was not like pacov, someone suggested I try Kassadin so I bought him and played almost every game as him at first.  It helps to play with experienced friends so they can be supportive and help you learn.

Teehee, while you guys are playing GW2 I am playing DSLoA on LAN, which is my #1 favorite game.

on Aug 28, 2012

I'm still alive! Haven't been playing LOL. Kind of needed to take a little hiatus from it. Plus I've been obsessed with Crusader Kings II. Great game!

Still following this thread and will likely end up back on LOL eventually.

Hope all is well.

on Aug 28, 2012

Definitely hop around a bit and try guys out before you buy them.  As a new player, there's nothing particularly special about the new additions, except their unlock price.  You can get a whole bunch of fun for the same amount by unlocking a bunch of cheapies first.

 

Whatever you do, don't unlock Rengar.  In spite of his absurd early damage and late game escape and engage capabilities, Rengar being on a team seems to make it lose...

on Aug 28, 2012

Nilles, it is good advice to try the F2P champs that come up every week...

but.

If you stick with the game, don't count any champs out that you tried and didn't really click with.  As you get better at playing, some champs that weren't enjoyable at first will become a lot of fun with improved mechanical skills and overall knowledge of how the game is played.

In the meantime I'd almost suggest you try and force yourself to play with certain champions.  Swain is one of my favorite AP mids... but I wouldn't recommend him to someone just starting out because he wouldn't be any good whatsoever.  If you don't have runes and masteries and there isn't a jungler to give you blue buff, last hitting and mana consumption will be really really hard to manage.  Annie and Ryze on the other hand are cheap to buy and made to own beginner games!

Send me a request and I'll show you a few things... when everyone eventually comes back from GW2 and have gone soft from not playing, you'll be turning them out in lane and having them beg their jungler for ganks!

In game name: Dynamo Sexy

on Aug 28, 2012

I never get rusty...

muahahahaha

I recently played a game of SoaSE after nearly a year-long hiatus and I did better than I have ever done in an MP game.

on Aug 29, 2012

random side note - that "Nope" video I submitted with a pull from karl the other day has hit just about 2k views on youtube. 

I have no idea why as I have mostly downvotes, but apparently I wrote something interesting on reddit that drew folks in... ah well.  T'was a fun moment. Certainly not epic, but delightful if you were on my team. 

on Aug 29, 2012

also - watch this.  Something I didn't know that is actually a pretty big deal..

on Aug 29, 2012

That's actually pretty huge, but I've never noticed being on the receiving end of it, which seems really.... unlikely? Definitely something that needs to be verified.

on Aug 29, 2012

Something rather related...

Viktor's lazor

it's invisible when you smart cast it without moving your mouse.

It makes laning against him hard because it is rather hard to avoid.

on Aug 29, 2012

I think its reasonable to assume that this isn't intentional.  Pretty useful trick in the meantime; that said, there are other things that sound like they are bugs but are not.  This vid hit reddit the other day and was widely viewed.  I think if it is a problem, riot will at least be looking at it.  I'd like to try this out sometime soon to confirm.  We'd just need to do a custom 1v1 for a few minutes. 

on Aug 29, 2012

Did a patch go live last night? No idea says pacov...

on Aug 29, 2012

Did a patch go live last night? No idea says pacov...

I have done zero updating, so I don't think so...

on Aug 29, 2012

I didn't see your message pacov otherwise I woulda played...I was playing DS.

Edit: Wow low level games.  I queued with a friend who had a level 7 friend and played against a bad team.  They were winning at first, but once the teamfights got rolling I killed everyone.  Both teams weren't really teamfighting, it was all picking off the 1-2 people going off by themselves.  I ended up 27/6/??.  It helped that Kassadin hardcounters Akali.

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