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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Oct 05, 2012

TSM vs Azubu Frost is about to start:  http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames

 

on Oct 07, 2012

So - day 3 of the world champs did not go so well.  Here's an exciting recap based on everything I've read.

  • A few teams have been accused of cheating by looking at the mini map on the big screen.  The mini map shows the location of all teams and it was possible to see the screen if players attempted to.  The specific instance that is really being called out is on TSM vs Azubu Frost.  Here's regi explaining things.

  • TSM reginald is retiring - he announced after TSM was knocked out
  • Due to the lack of a real delay (seemed off by like 1-5 seconds), the crowd actually played a big part in making some games a little unfair.  For instance, if a team went after a baron that had no wards, the crowd would start cheering; thus making it clear that something was going on.  My 2 cents - riot needs sound proofed booths with no view of the main screen
  • The stream went down multiple times.  Internet issues ensued at the tourney itself resulting in multiple restarted games. 
  • Commentator deman busted rain man's balls.  A sign was held up saying rain man #1.  Deman pointed out that rainman isn't even in the tourney and isn't even on a team.  He's not number 1.  Delightful

  • The remaining matches of this phase of the world tourney will be played sometime very soon.  Riot will make an announce.
on Oct 07, 2012

Yesterday was incredibly disappointing. Though looking at a majority of the tounrneys riot has had in the past it isn't suprising. I wouldn't consider it an official tournament if they didn't screw up at least 5 times.

on Oct 07, 2012

"""Due to the lack of a real delay (seemed off by like 1-5 seconds), the crowd actually played a big part in making some games a little unfair.  For instance, if a team went after a baron that had no wards, the crowd would start cheering; thus making it clear that something was going on.  My 2 cents - riot needs sound proofed booths with no view of the main screen"""

Sound-proof booths are not the problem. They are wearing $1500 headsets that are actually more soundproof than the booths that you see at other games. They also wear small earbuds "inside" the headsets that actually contain the sounds. 

If you read about MLG and stuff where they used sound-proof booths, the air conditioning was malfunctioning, it was super hot, you could hear the crowd/airconditioning anyway.

They only thing they need is some kind of overhead to block their view. Even without hearing the crowd you can still "look" at them even with a booth and if people are waving signs and shit you can tell if they are cheering without hitting them. 

"""Commentator deman busted rain man's balls.  A sign was held up saying rain man #1.  Deman pointed out that rainman isn't even in the tourney and isn't even on a team.  He's not number 1.  Delightful"""

So?

 
on Oct 07, 2012

A loving advert for mr jona.  Watch at http://www.own3d.tv/iJona

I declare that he shaves portions of his face to make his mustache more pointy.

on Oct 07, 2012

A red indicated that riot is shooting for Wednesday at the makeup date for all of the missed games day 3.  No time was mentioned yet.

edit - riot also indicated that the games would not have a live audience and that in the future, some sort of "overhang" will be used to prevent teams from seeing the big screen.

on Oct 08, 2012

Good guy riot says this:

We know the issues during the World Playoffs yesterday sucked. It was frustrating for everyone watching at home, and we feel that frustration. We’re taking everything we’ve learned from yesterday to make the conclusion of the Playoffs and the World Finals next Saturday as great as they can possibly be.

As a token of our thanks for your tremendous patience and dedication, we’re going to be giving out double IP for 24 hours after Finals, starting midnight PST on Sunday, October 14th.

Details on the conclusion of the playoffs are coming together and will be announced in the near future. Thanks for understanding!

on Oct 10, 2012

So.  More finals games tonight for world champs.  And there will be a new support before 2013

on Oct 10, 2012

A new support by 2013 is a welcome thing to hear.

Some more interesting news here: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/21922-the-news-roundup-honor-results-non-mana-based-ad

Includes:

-Honour working as intended?

-Manaless AD carry possible?

-date and duration change for double IP to Friday Oct 19th at 11:59pm Pacific time for 48 hours.

 

on Oct 10, 2012
on Oct 10, 2012

game 1 m5 vs tpa about to start

http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames

 

on Oct 11, 2012

sleepy pacov goes to sleep.  Holy crap.  What a night of games in the champs!  Cant' say I'm even remotely happy, but holy crap.  The games have been domination by 1 team... followed by just a complete reversal. 

Begin spoiler tags.

So, I had TPA pegged as chumps.  As in completely rigid in how they play.  Coming up with strats to try and sticking with them even if its idiotic based on the comp.  I saw that in game 1 vs m5.  Just some really, really stupid strat decisions.  Vayne vs Kart bot lane to shut down an eve mid with 2v1?  If its me, I'm thinking hey... maybe this isn't the setup we want.  Anyway, m5 dominates.  After that... and after I continued to write off TPA as chumps that have decent players with good strats vs m5 - exceptional players with ok strats, M5 comes out with what I consider a completely idiotic team comp.  And loses poorly... and doesn't ban out logically imo either.  I think - ok, maybe they are cocky and just think these guys are rot (like I did).  So, m5 takes a pounding.  Comes back the next game... and its slightly less meh, but pretty damn meh... and doesn't ban intelligently.  I have no idea.  M5 deserved to lose.  And I'm sad.

Then we come to the clg game vs frost.  Clg does a great job game 1.  Then is just completely ROFL stomped game 2.  Here's the one thing I don't get.  In game 1, they got the idea that wick'd needed alot of help in lane.  They provided it.  He then was able to do ok.  Wick'd is a great player, but from what I've seen, has my tendencies for going balls deep at sometimes not the best times.  He needed help in game 1 and they gave it to him.  So, frost is smart enough to counter that with vlad solo lane... but the biggest mistake imo was going shen on wick'd.  Shen doesn't have the damage vs a vlad.  And vlad can escape easily if they try to gank with a jungle (eg - so shen vs vlad REQUIRES a mid + jungle + shen to kill him during laning).  Anyway, I really see wick'd as the weakest link on the team.  I'd literally choose to ban our vlad and jax just to give him a solid chance - then gank the crap out of his lane.  If they don't do this, my prediction on the last game is that wick'd fails and is marginalizes quite a bit.


 

on Oct 11, 2012

game 3 summary...

I think wickd should start playing singed... what with the throws and all

on Oct 12, 2012

Apparently you can double jump out of a bush with Rengar. Just jump to someone like normal and right before you hit you activate Q and right click the target you want to jump to. Seems pretty helpful for those lanes where the enemy avoids the bush like a plague.

on Oct 12, 2012

yeah - saw the vid on that a little while back.  works at any rate.  Side note - I declare the most fun lane - playing as jayce vs garen top.  It is a treat.  Garen can literally do nothing to you.  You max your knockback and poke at your leisure.  And you can easily sustain on boots with the occassional knockback based on the cd timing.  Anyway, fun for me.  Not fun for the garen (note - pacov understands this because it was done to him )

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