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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jan 23, 2013

This is the best vid I've seen in a long time.  Stay with it...

http://de.twitch.tv/tsm_chaox/b/359613275?t=186m24s

 

on Jan 23, 2013

Side note - we know janook from his time playing Demigod.  I think he was hired to do QA on LoL.  Not sure if he still does that or not.  Really nice guy, though. 

He works in ESports now.  His stream is fantastic as he tells people why he's buying what, speccing, where he's warding... very educational.

 

on Jan 23, 2013

HEY COW!!!

http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/a/aa/Andrew.heo1_summoners_cup.jpg

also... smeh - blood boil nerf on pbe. 

on Jan 23, 2013

thresh is live now.

on Jan 24, 2013

off to bed, but exciting nerd pacov milestone.  I now possess all lol characters.  picked up thresh and ziggs to finish everyone.  Also, fuck riot for making the 1st week change to 7300 or 7800 for thresh.  pacov could have saved at least 1k ip (i know I could've been patient and get for 6300, mind you.  Anyway, thx for the games tonight.  I noticed that I was particularly awful tonight.  I think if I'm sleep deprived I'm just god awful - my current theory anyway (I think like 10 hours for sleep for 2 days). Anywho - night!

on Jan 24, 2013

CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun
http://www.own3d.tv/Syneptus/live/300577

this is krdax's stream.  I wanted to address this before I call it a night.  I really hope you don't take any offense to the following.  I'm just going to say why I'd watch or not watch your stream and provide some suggestions.  My end goal is encouraging you, though.

 

Based on what I know about you as a player and on what you say during games, I personally wouldn't watch your stream at this time.  I love that you got a headset and I can now clearly understand what you are saying, but I personally would like to learn how to improve from folks and I don't know that you could teach me a ton atm.  Now, I honestly think you could teach me some in various roles, but not enough that I'd tune into your stream regularly for tips. And, while you do talk a bit, at least when we are playing together, you don't get a chance to go on long tangents that could be interesting, etc.  I really think you on a tangent could be quite entertaining and that could be your in to a larger audience (eg play games without talkative (voice chat) teammates and just riff).  I'd probably dig that a ton and tune in regularly. 

Keep in mind that you don't have to stream, ofc.  Do it if its fun for you, even if you don't get a large audience.  I don't think I'll ever have a huge audience, but I'm really just streaming for pals.  If they like it then I'll keep doing it.  If they don't, then I'll probably stop as there's no point in tossing up vids for no one. 

Random side note - I honestly think my stream is most interesting when I'm just soloing.  I typically talk out why I'm doing this or that, explaining my build, and so.  But lately, all I do is group with folks, so you'd seriously have to go back >2-3 weeks to hear any of that - and that's what I think I do best anyway.  That said, I think folks that watch mostly like seeing me do crazy good or bad things and hearing me bitch up a storm or talk trash if I'm doing well. 

Anywho - people watch streams because its their pals, because its folks that play amazing, or because folks are entertaining.  I think I mostly fall into the entertaining/ I know you category.  I feel like I'm pretty solid in some roles, but I'm a far distance from amazing.  Anyway, I think I'd watch your steam if I found you more entertaining.  And for that, I think solo games with a steady commentary from you would go a long way and you could likely keep my attention as an entertainer.  So, give that a go if you want and I'll be happy to promote it here, give you any tips if I have any, and even advertise your stream on mine.  I really would enjoy seeing more of my pals streaming. 

on Jan 24, 2013

Thresh mechanics - watch this. You wont be able to do it in a draft game, but still

 

on Jan 24, 2013
on Jan 24, 2013


Quoting CPPFZKrdaxDrkrun, reply 2411http://www.own3d.tv/Syneptus/live/300577

this is krdax's stream.  I wanted to address this before I call it a night.  I really hope you don't take any offense to the following.  I'm just going to say why I'd watch or not watch your stream and provide some suggestions.  My end goal is encouraging you, though.

 

Based on what I know about you as a player and on what you say during games, I personally wouldn't watch your stream at this time.  I love that you got a headset and I can now clearly understand what you are saying, but I personally would like to learn how to improve from folks and I don't know that you could teach me a ton atm.  Now, I honestly think you could teach me some in various roles, but not enough that I'd tune into your stream regularly for tips. And, while you do talk a bit, at least when we are playing together, you don't get a chance to go on long tangents that could be interesting, etc.  I really think you on a tangent could be quite entertaining and that could be your in to a larger audience (eg play games without talkative (voice chat) teammates and just riff).  I'd probably dig that a ton and tune in regularly. 

Keep in mind that you don't have to stream, ofc.  Do it if its fun for you, even if you don't get a large audience.  I don't think I'll ever have a huge audience, but I'm really just streaming for pals.  If they like it then I'll keep doing it.  If they don't, then I'll probably stop as there's no point in tossing up vids for no one.

Anywho - people watch streams because its their pals, because its folks that play amazing, or because folks are entertaining.  I think I mostly fall into the entertaining/ I know you category.  I feel like I'm pretty solid in some roles, but I'm a far distance from amazing.  Anyway, I think I'd watch your steam if I found you more entertaining.  And for that, I think solo games with a steady commentary from you would go a long way and you could likely keep my attention as an entertainer.  So, give that a go if you want and I'll be happy to promote it here, give you any tips if I have any, and even advertise your stream on mine.  I really would enjoy seeing more of my pals streaming. 

Being that I use Wendy's internet currently, my streaming capabilities aren't that wonderful.

I actually really like your assessment of my skill, because I currently feel like I'm only slightly better than Bryff (he'll pass me up soon, I'll bet) and I greatly appreciate that you guys allow me to join your games. I'm still learning; I don't have much experience currently, however playing with you guys is infinitely more educational than soloing.

 

However, I am the ARAM master. Anything about ARAM, I gotcha covered. I am actually teaching quite a few guys online odd little tips and tricks that dominate ARAM games.

While I have a S2 ranked ELO of 1059, and 1 loss from S3 to begin, I feel that I have a completely useless but fun grasp of the intricacies of Proving Grounds ARAM to offer to my stream :>

on Jan 24, 2013

Hey

Last 2 nights I've been playing with some IRL buds who play pretty much just blind, and one is level 22.  We get 5v5 and I am so much better than everyone on the other team all the time.  Renekton player fearing my kass, I can kill the 2 bot lane even if support isn't that good playing adc...

I convinced them to try a draft pick game and it was harder.  Still dumb crap like kat with sunfire cape, but it was nice to see the our teamwork outplay them.

It makes me realize just how much I've improved playing with you guys doing 5v5s.  It is really awesome.  Anyway, hopefully gonna get back to playing with you guys soon.  It's just that I've discovered that some people I know play LoL and it's pretty comical.

on Jan 24, 2013

Still dumb crap like kat with sunfire cape, but it was nice to see the our teamwork outplay them.

Kat with sunfire is actually a thing now.  Its very popular at high elo from what I understand.

on Jan 25, 2013

how much I've improved playing with you guys doing 5v5s.

Oh - I know you have.  You've become so much better than when we 1st started. Consider the recent drama even - you had someone that did not want to lane against your kass (forget the rest of that drama).  IMO its a huge compliment to have someone intentionally ban one of your characters to avoid having to deal with you.  Even if you got a kass ban in our in house games, I'd take that more as a compliment than a fug bryff - he can't do crap without kass.  Always been my opinion anyway.

Glad you've been able to play with your pals and tear things up, though.  Always fun to be the best on the team. 

on Jan 25, 2013

uh... tip for draven I did not know. 

Your passive procs Black Cleaver every time it ticks since it does physical damage. A single Q will end up putting 4 stacks on everything you hit with it after 3 seconds.

 

on Jan 25, 2013

Ugh...

 

No it's not.  When playing support in ranked, being the best on the team is pure frustration.

on Jan 25, 2013

psychoak
When playing support in ranked, being the best on the team is pure frustration

ah - yeah - point there.  Kind of excruciating. 

 

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