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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Feb 29, 2012

I played a few against.  The 1 that sticks out is this - my top fed exactly 1 kill.  I'm up 3 kills.  My WW is up 1 or 2 kills.  Bitch solo's us both at the same time.... Eg - there is no scenario where someone with 1 kill should be able to solo 2 people that are higher leveled and more fed. 

side note  - ww and I were at full hp and she was at about 80%.

on Mar 01, 2012

Finally back in action! Played a few games of dominion last night without any problems. Fiora didn't seem like a great pick on that map. Too squishy, but did seem to have strong dmg.

on Mar 01, 2012

Glad to hear you are back!  I'm wondering if the game I described against fiora was a fluke or something.  It was quite ridiculous at the time.

on Mar 01, 2012

Still no sign of a good Fiora...

sigh

Another crushing victory in a 1v2 lane

Rumble 10/2/6

on Mar 01, 2012

I played a few against.  The 1 that sticks out is this - my top fed exactly 1 kill.  I'm up 3 kills.  My WW is up 1 or 2 kills.  Bitch solo's us both at the same time.... Eg - there is no scenario where someone with 1 kill should be able to solo 2 people that are higher leveled and more fed. 

side note  - ww and I were at full hp and she was at about 80%.

 

Eh... you never really know.  Sounds like maybe you still have a little "kills are everything" mentality leftover from the Demigod days?  How farmed was she?

on Mar 01, 2012

I'm sure he had ok cs, but we are talking like 4-7 minutes into the game killing both ww and jax easily

on Mar 01, 2012

Fiora is a lot like Sivir, pro blocking at the right time means she will dominate certain characters.  Parry Warwick's badass lifestealing swipe, and you have a big advantage.  Surprising that she beat both of you though.  Item disparity because you hadn't gone home to buy yet?

on Mar 01, 2012

Well, I was looking halfway decent at that point and had shopped.  Wish I had lolreplay installed at that point.  There were alot of batshite crazy things going on mid/late game.  Obviously, the game started to snowball when fiora was able to take 2 of us out at will.  Mid game, she had 5 tiamats.  yeah... It was a sick, sick, sick, game.  I'd wager she had life steal and armor pen runes, etc.  She had like 3 dorians as well.  Anyway, what I'm thinking is that there might be something a little over the top when she's pumping life steal... anyway, like I said, could have been a fluke, but I'm tell you, she destroyed 2 full hp characters (at least me after shopping) between 4-8 min in or so. 

on Mar 01, 2012

Well he ulti applies on hit effects so the tiamats basically made it aoe. When they do gimmick stuff like that just spread apart and she cant hit more than 1.

on Mar 01, 2012

So i super love jarvan.  Had a lot of fun playing as him tonight.  I think there might be something bugged with tiamat (an item I'm taking much more now).  I think you get life steal off of the splash damage.  That + the regen of tiamat... well let's just say I spent some time running around with 88 HP5S + life steal.  Anyway, I think that might be part of why I've found Fiora to be good (note - when used by decent players).  Anyway, we'll see.  I think I'm going to unlock jarvan with IP before too long and buy fiora.  I guess be happy if you haven't seen a good fiora yet. 

For instance, she's an exceptional counter to jax with reposte.  You see a jax coming at you from a distance, you know its going to be a jump with his w active.  You can block that crap completely.. or so i think.  Anyway, I love the idea of playing as her in principal anyway.  I'll probably pick her up tomorrow.  Cya.

on Mar 02, 2012

You shouldn't be getting on hit effects from the splash, but maybe.  If so it's a recent bug/change.

on Mar 02, 2012

For instance, she's an exceptional counter to jax with reposte. You see a jax coming at you from a distance, you know its going to be a jump with his w active. You can block that crap completely.. or so i think.

If Jax is smart, he just Q's on, does an autoattack to get Parry down, then fires w.  Fiora should be trying to time it on the ult proc anyway.  And Jax murders Fiora 1v1 simply because his E is way better than riposte.

Also, Tiamat is not a good item on pretty much anybody. 

on Mar 02, 2012

I don't like people stacking Tiamats on her either. Building as a normal AD carry does MUCH more.

Edit: She can also solo mid fairly well.

on Mar 02, 2012

Guardsman Bob was on a Fiora-playing spree, he's quite good with her...

He builds her exclusively as a solo-top AD carry and he's still quite tanky...

I have finally seen a good Fiora...

 

More crushing Rumble victories leading into my level up into level 24...

And a hilarious Support Nautilus game where I got our Talon so fed that we won a fight 2v4... HAHAHA

on Mar 02, 2012

Solo top certainly seems ideal for fiora.  That one that impressed/stunned me was a solo top as well.

Personally, I think tiamat is reasonably viable on fiora.  I even found it very viable on jarvan as well.  Splash damage + increase regen/dmg + life steal from other items... along with fioras ability to deal more hits quickly, an ult that doesn't allot folks to target her and the ability to easily chase/catch up to folks.  Anyway, I think it will be the weekend of fiora for me.

re: jax's e vs reposte - well, yes and no.  I'm pretty sure reposte would block and return damage from crits as well.  Considering that builds that use alot of crit/ad usually have low hp... well that can make a little difference.  Additioanlly, you can block all of the damage from jax jumping in to start the combat.  Then you could dash away for a moment when he uses his e or w.  Anyway, I think the ability to return and stop big damage (like the video from the summoner showcase showing using reposte vs nasus) adds some very specific, very useful utility.  And that could make a difference in the solo phase at least.  Plus, building her tanky or with an item like tiamat (that lends itself with to being tanky) isn't bad.

 

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