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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Mar 03, 2012

I do not think she will be nerfed next patch. If only because almost nobody plays her right yet. Also Tiamat's splash range isnt even big enough to hit the small wraith directly across from the big wraith. :/

on Mar 03, 2012

OMG_Shiro
Also Tiamat's splash range isnt even big enough to hit the small wraith directly across from the big wraith. :/

Yeah - it works just fine when things are right next to each other.. if not, then there's no splash. 

on Mar 03, 2012

It's biggest advantage is probably in rapid farming for a melee character with no short cd aoe abilities.  You can clear a super minion lane really fast with one on a guy like Tryndamere.

on Mar 04, 2012

tonight's obsession has been the obnoxious little guy teemo... also, I really should be wiped out now, but am oddly still awake.. need to sleep soon... no desire to yet.  smeh

on Mar 04, 2012

Anyone feel like they could play teemo at mid vs an AP heavy like malz?  Got stuck there last game... ended about how I thought it would.

on Mar 04, 2012

Flash/Exhaust, shroom the shit out of the bushes, and burst his ass from behind.  Start with a Wits End and you should be able to avoid getting killed under suppression.

 

If he runs around the bushes instead of going straight back, free kill.  Pissed me off to no end trying to kill the Teemo doing that to me.

on Mar 04, 2012

heh.. I still hate mid as him vs AP.  Oh well.  I do love being super annoying with the shrooms though.

on Mar 05, 2012

A random report from a fly on the wall. 

Zen_god (demigod player - one of the best ubs in the game, if not the best) has an interesting situation in LoL.  Now 1st, zen's not an older fellow.  From what I know - he's anywhere from like 16-22 or so.  Anyway, he's apparently really excited about trying to become a professional gamer and putting his time in to do so.  For instance, in Demigod, zen played THOUSANDS of games as the same character to try to get better with him and master the character.  I assume he's doing the same thing in LoL, but if you play games with him, you'll see mixed results.  Granted, those mixed results are likely to playing characters that aren't his main.  I'll jump back to the interesting situation later.

Anyway, I played anywhere from 3-6 games with him tonight.  I was super into the support role for some reason and all games we did were NORMAL games with draft mode.  I LOVE playing support if my ad carry has a brain.  If he doesn't, well, playing support is completely useless as I have no cs and my teammate just dies.  Anyway, zen had mixed results with MF with a solid support soraka.  Sometimes really good - sometimes really bad.  Anyway, the majority of my games were as support soraka.  Imo soraka is INCREDIBLY easy to play as a support.  The downside is that you completely rely on your ad carry to be good.  If your ad carry is not, then you are constantly healing and trying to compensate for their mistakes.  This means you can't provide the clutch heal, etc, because its on CD because some goof decided to take 300 dmg for no reason. 

Bleh - fun games at any rate.

Anyway, zen is apparently on a team with several folks and one of their teammates just RQ tonight and is stirring up some whiny rucus.  This is the huge downside of competitive gaming.  I've seen via reading, etc, several teams that go tits up (thank my British boss for that saying) because of some whiny character or folks voting out teammates for the newest, bestest guy.  I think its all a little sad.  Usually these things start out as friends playing a game and turn into some sort of mess when someone is perceived as the weak link.  Anyway, there are lots of ways to look at this sort of thing (the positive or the negative).  Hopefully everything works out for zen's group.

on Mar 05, 2012

I just got one of those, freaking horrid Cait that fed a Corki to 12/1 before the team fights started...

 

ELO hell, a place I'm doomed to stay...

on Mar 05, 2012

heh... I so want to play at least 1 game with a troll team.  I was just thinking about (apparently I think about strange crap on lunch breaks from time to time) having a teemo or rat or eve  tp to a tower as soon as the game started after buying a sight ward.  You wouldn't need to tp if you were eve or the rat, ofc.  Anyway, if it was teemo, he'd tp to the tower at the start, then place a ward at the back corner of wolves as quickly as possible.  Then, he'd stand in the bushes by blue golums and go stealth. This gives full line of sight to golums and wolves.  Anyway, everyone on the team would have to take tp.  Depending on the setup of the defense, 2 could come from the river and the other 2 could tp in where no one would expect them.  Or all could tp in and then gank. I think those tping in would be out of line of sight so they wouldn't be seen by the enemy when they port in. 

Anyway, I hope I end up on a team at some point for some silly arse trolling fun at some point.  Even though its quite ridiculous, you could pull crap like that throughout the game if everyone was coordinated enough.  Delightfully trolly. 

 

 

on Mar 05, 2012

If I see a team with all teleport and a Teemo, I am so starting the game off with oracles if I'm jungling.

on Mar 05, 2012

CURSE YOU COMMON SENSE!

on Mar 05, 2012

Having fun with Free Nautilus

I love playing him as a Support (despite his jungling being better) I just sit in the bushes and anchor peeps who facecheck me. ROFL.

My Rumble-ing is still quite silly, I absolutely crushed a Fiora who decided to dive me every single chance she had, but then she started roaming and my team fed her...

OH WELL, WE LOST THAT ONE

 

I've also been playing silly Jungle Irelia and Jungle Veigar...

Irelia is like the easiest Jungler ever, and Veigar is the silliest Jungler ever...

I found it quite amusing that I didn't even need health pots as Irelia when I jungled, as my W's passive kept me at full health into perpetuity...

Now Veigar, on the other hand, has a hard time even killing wraiths at low levels, however, when he gets started, his ganks are quite frightening, and dying to a 1.5-sec stun is very silly...

I am seriously glad that I didn't have a competent jungler to worry about... Else I would've been screwed...

on Mar 05, 2012

KrdaxDrkrun
I love playing him as a Support (despite his jungling being better) I just sit in the bushes and anchor peeps who facecheck me. ROFL.

yeah - I had alot of fun playing as a support morgana the other day.  Characters that aren't truly meant for that role are often quite a bit of fun. 

I'm still boycotting jungling.  You make it sound fun anyway

on Mar 05, 2012

I think that since Nautilus is kinda like Blitzcrank, his niche as a support tank isn't all that bad...

Jungling is a real blast, however, you have to have a team who isn't going to just sit and watch as you try to 1v2...

Unless you're Skarner

holy crap, Skarner is like the weirdest Jungler ever...

you just charge in and start hitting people and they ACTUALLY DIE

WHOA

Irelia is also quite fun, as she has a dash stun and can deal quite a bit of damage with just a few attacks...

If you want an easy jungler, I recommend Irelia or Pooppy...

they both scale pretty well, but they can get shoved out of their jungle rather easily by an over-aggressive jungler like Shaco or Shyvana....

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