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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Apr 06, 2013

so question... with teleport, I seem to be unable to cast that for the 1st 10 seconds of the game.  That sound right?

on Apr 06, 2013

so... i'm going to bed ready for my promotional series... would love to duo-queue through those tomorrow afternoon if any of you are willing.  let me know, let's make a date!

on Apr 07, 2013

if im around and you need some help, I'm game bro.  I think thunder said he can't play until monday.  Be aware that if I duo with on my normal account, the competition is going to be a little more difficult - my mmr is a bit high and I end up playing a bunch with folks above gold... which is nice and not so nice.  Anyway, I could play on that acct or play on my alt.  I'm best spec'd for adc on that acct but have a char for every role anyway... just not too deep a champ pool.

 

 

ANYONE ELSE pick up the age of empires 2 HD thing?  Loved aoe2.  I've been replaying through that and aoe3 here and there.  Really love it.

on Apr 07, 2013

ANYONE ELSE pick up the age of empires 2 HD thing?  Loved aoe2.  I've been replaying through that and aoe3 here and there.  Really love it.
Of course. I've already logged 16 hours in it.

on Apr 07, 2013

Either/or, pacov... you know I 80% play support... I should be home about 3:30pm your time... and getting the new aoe2 monday/tuesday... aoe3 was a huge waste of time imo... there were like 3 good nationalities and whoever got to make the first/second factory first won the match.

on Apr 07, 2013

aoe3 was a huge waste of time imo... there were like 3 good nationalities and whoever got to make the first/second factory first won the match.

I play games like these mostly for SP.  That aspect is fun for meh.

on Apr 07, 2013

I wont be free until later tonight.

on Apr 07, 2013

Where the hood at?

on Apr 07, 2013

duoing w swan on my alt - he was promoted to silver 3.  I played my last placement match and ended up in silver 3.  Also got my 2nd penta kill using my crappy rune setup n everything.  Super annoying game on and off.  Check my top laner's stats and they were awful and fed garen out the ass.  Enemy ez got fed out the ass as well.  Was a good win capitalizing on some bad plays at the wrong time.

on Apr 08, 2013

We did it!

on Apr 08, 2013

uhhh breaking news... I skipped silver 3... no joke... I went from silver 4 to 2... i looked at my lolking to notice... but yeah, my leagues (under profile), lolking, and main profile all show silver 2... wtf... does that happen?

EDIT: found answer in this thread... apparently my rating is much higher than silver 3 i guess...

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34184826

on Apr 08, 2013

yeah - I skipped a tier as well.  I don't know how generous they are with skipping ahead (maybe your link indicates, but I can't read lol forums at work), but maybe they only bump you ahead once?  I'm not really sure.  Anyhow, that means I'll likely promote to silver 1 on my alt account shortly, which I'm not all that excited about (sorry if that sounds douchey to anyone struggling to get promoted).  The whole point of my alt account (at least in my mind now) is so I can play with my lower level pals without having them get matched against gold or higher opponents.  From what I've seen, if I were to duo with a bronze level player on my gold account, the bronze level guy would be up against folks closer to my level resulting in a much more difficult game.  Anyway, I'm not willing to tank random peoples ranked games so I can be at a lower level, but at the same time, this alt account of mine is pretty useless imo if I hit gold with it.   First world nerd problems.

on Apr 08, 2013

from that link

RoboLions (User Experience Designer) : 

"If your estimated rating is much higher, yes, you can skip ahead to catch up faster."

 

 

The post came from somebody saying they went from plat 3 to plat 1.... so it apparently happens at higher tiers too... I assume if you haven't played a lot of ranked your rating is more susceptible to how good/bad you do.

on Apr 08, 2013

I think the way it went for me on my primary acct is that I went from bronze I to silver V, then went from silver V to silver 3 immediately... or I went directly from bronze 1 to silver IV, can't remember.  I moved through the ranks pretty quickly, but had some losses after I was bumped, so I didn't get double bumped (eg win at silver 3 did not then bump me to silver 1).  It does stand to reason that I'd hit silver 1 for sure if I win my next 6 games anyway.  Kind of hoping that doesn't happen, but I'll do my best to win, ofc.

Still really surprised about my penta nonsense lately.  I get 2 in a week after having 0 in all the time I've played lol.  The enemy team even gave karl a penta the other day by running into our fountain, so mr karl now has at least 1 penta anyway. 

I really need to put some time into my main account for ranked.  Haven't really been all that motivated as my original goal was to hit gold and I pulled that off.  I'm literally 1 win away to starting my promotion series from gold V to gold IV.  I really don't care that much atm.  Maybe I'll just play the next time we duo on my main account and we can see how we do.  You will def be up against stronger opponents at the very least.  Now that you aren't in a promo series its less of a big deal in my mind anyway. 

 

on Apr 08, 2013

I'm game for it, pacov... I have today and tomorrow off... why i was able to play so much last night.... i probably won't play with you after that until fri/sat if you're up late as i work 2-10pm central time all week... then the following week I won't have any time to play with you as my days off are a long weekend as I will be going to a convention... the week after I have no idea what I'll have off... but tonight, tomorrow, friday/saturday late night would be the times i could do it.  

also... if anybody wants a hoot... here's a jurassic park dating simulator, enjoy

http://hima.gptouch.com/games/jurassic_heart/

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