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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jun 06, 2013

I'm buying the $250 worth of DLC with the game, but if it sucks, I'm blaming it on you.

on Jun 06, 2013

holy fuck that is expensive

on Jun 07, 2013

well... I've played that marvel game about 30 minutes or so now.  They appear to give you 5-6 free character choices at the start.  No idea how you unlock other champs, etc.  If you know the marvel universe, you will immediately recognize some of the places you end up.  Really cool setup.  Graphics = ok.  Gameplay is really diablo 3 like.  Cut seen animations to push the story along are really good.  Anyway, I'm certainly having fun with what I've played.  I have not encountered any MP aspect yet.  I assume I'll hit that after playing through some stuff.  Anyway, I currently recommend giving it a look at least.  Really cool and I'm having fun 30 min in anyway.  Off to bed - night all and thx for the games!

edit - ah - actually I see other players after the 1st mission.  Not sure if you can interact as I'm off to bed, but you can at least see other peeps.

on Jun 07, 2013

hunny and I went on a rampage tonight... the last game was even kind of trolly with the shit we were doing... looks like tomorrow i should be expecting a series of losses to make up for it.

on Jun 07, 2013

deleted for ya.

If anyone else picks up that marvel game... and you can add people in game (no idea atm), I'm pacov in game. 

on Jun 07, 2013

lol... was i really stupid, or do you only have that power?

on Jun 07, 2013

@Karl

Damnit, we've had this argument before haven't we?  It's not as fun debating with you as it is with other people since you tend to actually be right.  Yeah, truth is I slipped back into using Jayce almost exclusively because he's my best top laner and I'm playing ranked a lot.  Think I need to play some more normal games where I can be more assertive about playing a position I'm terrible at until I can get some other champs dialed in.

At least all that time spent playing Jayce isn't wasted... if you have an AP top, I don't know if there is ever not a reason to take him mid.  Dominates lots of traditional mids, punishes people for not having flat armor runes, goes well with almost every team if you have enough AP damage elsewhere, is great at ganking top and bot, and is fantastic at helping his jungler with friendly or enemy jungle invasions.

I agree that the big gator is a great go to top laner nowadays.  Here's a pretty good Voyboy treatise on him if you're interested.

http://www.twitch.tv/voyboy/b/406172356

Only thing that kept me from learning him so far is that Hedgie and Gotnades play him often and it's demotivating knowing people you play with a lot are already really good with a champion.  You ever feel that way about your friends favorite champs where you avoid playing them cause you want to have your own thing and also don't want to draw any comparisons?  I'm not ever going to try to learn to jungle WW any time soon or try and master Anivia, that's for sure. 

 

@Pacov

Usually my work internet is good enough to load up old streams fairly quickly, but some days it just feels like I'm back in the days of 5600 bauds.  So yeah, no need to load anything on YouTube on my account but thanks.

 

 

on Jun 07, 2013

so... I've been playing the marvel game a bunch today.  Quite a bit of fun.  I'll likely hop over to LoL in a wee bit.

on Jun 07, 2013

I'm streaming some of the marvel game now if anyone wants to check it out

on Jun 07, 2013

duoing with my bronze pal in ranked.

on Jun 08, 2013

super fast summary of my LoL client experiences of late.  All might not be related to client, ofc, just calling out.  I notice issues with my mouse a few weeks back.  Mouse is randomly lagging in LoL. No probs anywhere else.  Tis a new mouse.  Pacov goes apeshit and reinstall entire OS.  Loads LoL.  No issues by itself.  I add LoLreplay + fix and LSI.  Random crashes joining games.  Unpleasant.  I uninstall LSI.  Play and still get rand crash.  Remove LoLreplay.  Same rand crashes.  Uninstall LoL.  Reinstall LoL.  Game is fine w/o crashes.  Not a huge sample size of games, but let's say like 9 games w/o incident.  I install LSI.  Immediate crashes.  Remove LSI - crashes continue randomly.  That brings me to now - I uninstall LoL and am going to sleep while it installs.  In my mind anyway, this should get me back to even unless I have some underlying hardware problem.  No idea why I can't use LSI now.  I understood the LoL replay problem at least.  Anyway, me = not liking walking away when the load screen is due to come back to a shit be crashed screen.  Could be riot changed something that is impacting me as well, but w/e.  Hopefully this sorts meh.

I went 1/1 with my bronze level pal.  Side note - you know how some folks just get stuck somewhere and have trouble promoting even if they are better than that?  I think my buddy really is close to where he should be imo.  Really nice guy and a pal from growing up, but honestly I put him bronze 3 with some work.  Said his thresh was his best support and really didn't understand the mechanics behind a lot of things.  For instance, lantern appears to be mostly for grabbing spirits at max distance and not for escapes or ganks.  Must have used 90% of lanterns (cast almost always when up) to grab spirits.  3-4 ults where he hit no one.  I coached him on it, but I think I'll have to work a bit with him to get him up to par as support. 

Bronze-ish is a weird place.  Game 1 was lost I think almost entirely due to team comp.  Enemy team with 3 tanks.  Our team with zero.  I do ok laning and hard carry mid, but late game stall with a nasus on enemy team = hey great, your dmg can only hit the tanks while our "fake" tanks are in deep for some reason.  Game 2 was a win with me jungling nunu.  I really didn't think we'd win it based on how things were going.  I'd setup up multiple, what seemed to be incredibly easy kills and we just missed them.  My kass fugged up multiple times.  We even gave a penta because Kass wanted to go after Yi instead of clean up when I pushed out adc/support as nunu.  Kass had like random moments of holy crap awful and a few good moments.  Anyway, their trynd eventually screwed over their whole team when j4 got our of position and we took an easy inhib/push to win setup.  Tryn was literally 2 outer turrets out pushing into our base when we were pounding base towers with 3-4 and their entire team dead.  trynd = shithead = my summary of game 2. I think I performed ok.  Game 1 I really needed to be the amazing pacov, master of magic to pull off.  I needed to be like 2 fed vaynes to win that 1.  Game 2 I did what I needed to do based on what I had to work with. 

on Jun 08, 2013

Someone made a cartoon about Hedgie. 

http://elohell.net/chill/252964/a-badass-ranked-player

on Jun 08, 2013

Here's my "Proof" video. 

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2394001

 

on Jun 08, 2013

Playing a bit of marvel heroes this afternoon.  add pacov in game if you are checking it out.

on Jun 09, 2013

just making notes for myself.  After reinstalling LoL, the game crashed on the 1st play.  I fully deleted LSI after that (it was not running, but it still existed unzipped on my hd).  I then played another game without issue.  Then I updated to the beta version of adobe air.  Zero crashes since then... maybe 6 games without issue or so.  Hedgie suggested I move my game install from my SSD to my mechanical drive (impressed he remembered my setup).  I'll try that if I have mixed results again.

Played a bunch of marvel heroes today and picked up a new monitor (old one was showing signs of crapping out soon).  New monitor is nice - getting used to it well enough anyway (same size replacement). 

That's it - off for bed.  Hopefully catch you folks tomorrow.  Night all!

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