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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jul 15, 2013

awuffleablehedgie
long reply to something I was looking to table

Sorry. 

 

udyr is still disabled on pbe as of 1:50PM.  Still betting that we don't see a release until after its been enabled on PBE for a bit, but who knows.  Still pretty early for the folks out in CA, so quite a bit of time for them to sort it out today. 

on Jul 15, 2013

Regarding complaints about me hanging up the Skype call:

I didn't find obscene, personal insults directed at myself very useful at that point in time.  I was busy trying to win the game.

You might want to be aware that if your calls devolve into you yelling personal insults at people, you are probably going to get hung up on.  I am pretty tolerant in terms of having discussions on specific decisions, but screaming personal taunts is something a bit different. I don't think that I am unique in muting such behavior.

on Jul 15, 2013

k thanks.  Still sorry.

on Jul 15, 2013

my fav dj is now streaming and talking like a lunatic...

http://www.twitch.tv/aplfisher

 

 

on Jul 16, 2013

sooo.... fiddle support.  I think I played a total of 4 games as fiddle support yesterday.  Went 2/2.  Just wanted to provide some of my thoughts.  So, 1 - its definitely not a support that you should pick in every situation.  I was first picking him which gave the enemy team the option of going with a support that could cause more problems for fid.  For example, lulu, in particular, is a bit of a pain as fid.  Leona, on the other hand, is actually exceptionally weak vs fid (you fear her when she hits her snare and she's unable to stun then... which pretty much completely kills here early engages because the enemy adc likely won't be able to do anything and you just get free dmg on leona who is way out of position without that stun). 

Other thoughts - I buy a lot of oracles on fid support.  I like rushing the 1st one as it provides a good 2-3 minute window for easy ganks - not quite as useful if no ganks during that window, so its def good to call out that you picked up an oracles and are clearing bot so the jungler prioritizes ganks there. 

Random supporting comment - more often than not on all my supports, I'm going a 1 pink, 4 green, 2 pot start.  While its nice to start with one of the mana/health beads, its not really all that optimal imo.  Those pots provide much higher sustain.  Combine that with the extra wards and you are in a good position to maintain safe vision and typically have enough sustain to last it out.

Anyway, I've likely got the whole fid support out of my system for a bit, but I'd be pretty likely to go him again against a leona.

on Jul 16, 2013

League of Legends is now deemed an official sport by the US government now apparently.

on Jul 16, 2013

Rovert10

League of Legends is now deemed an official sport by the US government now apparently.

wut?

on Jul 16, 2013

ah... here's what the comment was about then - http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23321595

 

on Jul 16, 2013

ok = so spirit guard udyr is no longer disabled on pbe.  But now thresh has been disabled... so its quite possible that whatever they did to fix udyr broke thresh... or something...

on Jul 16, 2013

OK - so more cool pbe news - spirit udyr now has unique death animations.  Methinks this is one of the main reasons he's been delayed in all honesty. Some minor changes to his recall animations as well.  Still shaping up to be the best looking skin in the game imo.

Shop sell back option is on pbe as well.  EG you accidentally bought the wrong item, etc, you can sell it back AS LONG as you haven't left the base or done something that influences the game (likely talking about things like starting to tp, cv, doing crazy sells/buys when your base is under siege, etc. 

yi and olaf changes

Olaf

  • [W] - Vicious Strikes - Now increases attack damage by 20/35/50/65/80 (changed from 7/14/21/28/35 (+ [1% of maximum Health]))
  • [W] - Vicious Strikes - Now gains 8/10.5/13/15.5/18%lifesteal and spell vamp. (Down from 9/12/15/18/21%)

Master Yi

  • Wuju Style[ E ] -Now 7/9/11/13/15 % (Changed from always 15)
  • [Q] - Alpha Stike (THERE ARE CHANGES)

Boots of Speed

  • Limited to 1

Boot Enchantments

  • Limited to 1 of each enchantment type.

karma changes

 

Karma

  • [Passive] - Gathering Fire - Basic attacks are no longer listed has having half-effect
  • [Q] - Inner Flame - Now slows for 20/25/30/35/40/% (up from always 25%)
  • [Q] - Inner Flame - [R] Now slows for 60% (up from 50%)
  • [Q] - Inner Flame - [R] Now has a ratio of 1. AP (up from 0.6*AP) and does 80/230/380/530 (up from 50 / 150 / 250 / 350)
  • [Q] - Inner Flame - [R] - No longer has the first ratio for when mantra'ed of doing extra magic damage
  • [W] - Focused Resolve [R] No longer heal for another 1% per additional AP
  • [W] - Focused Resolve -[R]  Now heals for the 20% Plus 30/70/110/150 (+ 30% AP)
  • [W] - Focused Resolve - Cooldown is now always 12 (down from 16/15/14/13/12)
  • [E] - Inspire [R] Damage and shield both have a ratio of  .25*AP (down from 0.6*AP, (just for damage))
  • [E] - Inspire [R] No longer gives allies a shield based on half the amount, but now gives it based on a scaling number (based on R level) and a ratio: 40/85/130/175 (0.25*AP)
  • Click Spoiler to view tooltip pictures
on Jul 16, 2013

tomorrow is the day - http://l3cdn.riotgames.com/releases/live/projects/lol_air_client/releases/0.0.1.32/files/assets/swfs/login.swf

 

riot says "tonight"  so, tomorrow for me anyway.  Hunny and I duo'ing ranked gold IV/V level.  streaming.  prob last game

 

on Jul 17, 2013

well... 1 really easy win thrown away and another possible win pissed away.  I have never worked so hard to help a pos jungler only to be repaid with nothing.  Anyway, if you want to watch the vids and provide feedback, please do as I'm curious re: my performance.  Game 1 I think I did amazing.  Got frustrated towards the end and misplayed a smidge, but honestly I don't think we were going to win if you pay attention to our incredible teamwork.  I simply crushed my lane though... and missed some FREE - that's right, FREE drags because fid is a jackass.  That said, other interesting things happened.  IMO - our team comp was really strong with the exception of our fid.  Takes a guy that can assist on early drags hard and does nothing on drag calls. 

 

Game 2 is less impressive.  There, I give up some early game power to help my awful jungler...only to get to a chance to solo kill their adc and the shit takes red for exp... and then smites red when I'm 1 hit away from it and dies.  Guy was a POS.  Anyway, no VOD atm, but if you check the archive of tonights games towards the last 1-2 hours, you should find the games.  Both games MF adc.  MIght archive the games, but I'm quite welcoming of feedback.  I'm really looking for instances where you think I misplayed and why. 

on Jul 17, 2013

i only had about 5/10 minutes of the game up (mostly the beginning). Helping your Nocturne was actually a really good, bold call and i think it saved him. It actually only put you behind a little bit.. so that was a great call. 

However, i think a bit reason that it put you behind so little is because of MF passive giving you so much MS so not sure if it would have worked out so well on other lanes.. 

Anyway after you came back only about 1.5 levels behind, you had a huge creep wave and were able to catch up reasonably well. It was good Nocturne sat in that bush for a little while to let you safely farm up a level. 

(i walked away here and came back when you were angry about being 1v1 against Trist 'with no red' -- reading your post it sounds like you were a bit on tilt about that smite 'steal')

It looked like the game was lost due to not grouping/lack of vision to know when you needed to group. The kills seemed pretty close and though you were down 2 towers + at most 1 dragon, if the CS numbers were close you had the Ori+Noct combo to pretty much instantly win a teamfight. But then it kinda snowballed and you were trapped at your base at like 19 minutes. 

Anyway, the only real comment i have is that MF doesn't max W first and E second. (maybe you maxed E second to try to push/farm a little better due to falling behind in lane when i was away from the computer but you were 1/0/2 when i came back so it didn't look too bad in terms of botlane

Not much to say (again i didn't watch the games much) but that was the only real big thing that popped out about that game particularily.

 

on Jul 17, 2013

awuffleablehedgie
he only real comment i have is that MF doesn't max W first and E second.

humor me - why is that?  Off to bed for now - thx for the feedback!

on Jul 17, 2013

well her Q is an autoattack reset and so that is your big trading skill since you want to auto > q > auto.

The first point of Q is only 20 primary/30 secondary (because level 1 aa resets are stupid strong) but each additional point of Q decreases the CD by 1 second and increases primary damage by 35  and secondary damage by 42 for 5 more mana per point.

Her W is a % AS steroid, meaning it is really multiplicative of how much AD/Crit you have. Early game, that isn't very impressive. Plus it only gains 5% AS per point. The magic-damage dot gains 40 magic damage per point... assuming you manage to autoattack 6 times. If you auto 6 times, well, 40 additional magic damage is a pretty small % of that damage. The CD and mana costs are unchanged. 

Her E gains 55 magic damage per point (AoE too) assuming they stay in it the whole duration. This is likely if you have a support with a stun... but unlikely otherwise. Maxing E 1st/2nd would make sense if you really need the farming. But that's it. Oh and i guess the slow increases by 8% per point which is alright given it is AoE.

 

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