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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Jul 12, 2013

I don't think he cut in and out... at least on the youtube version...

 

on Jul 12, 2013

Here's a really good, very concise review of the changes in patch 3.9.  Guy has a good presentation and ranks champs (eg kennen god tier; now strong)

 

on Jul 12, 2013

Another horrible day to play...

 

I'm ending the day on a game as support Nami for an incompetent boob that first picked Nasus top and did less damage to champions than I did.  The two carries mid and bot were barely higher.  The jungle was competent at least, got three kills off of me ganking bot.  Sadly, the idiot carries threw every engagement spectacularly, and three kills was half the team total.

 

Two of ten games that didn't suck in the last few days, the rest of them were ruined by gross incompetence, intentional feeding, or people dropping.  If I didn't have money in it, I'd have uninstalled already.

on Jul 12, 2013

this is just awful btw... but funny - give it a look.

on Jul 13, 2013

KARL - either they fugged something up or we got bumped.  My alt account is silver 2.  I see your acct as silver 2.  You and I were both silver 4 and crushed it. Looks like we got moved up.  Anyway, that means with a little work, we can get you to silver 1... and then you can endure the hell that is thunders world of trying to hit gold.  If I remember right, your hell was stuck in silver 3.  Boom.  That is over.  Honestly, you can probably hit silver 1 solo, but I'll duo and play whatever w/ u if you like to hit that. 

side note - i think I got 35 LP for a single win.  You will likely be the same... which means 3 consecutive wins and you hit promo from silver 2 to 1.  Hit gold ya bum.

on Jul 13, 2013

That was an epic troll...

 

Alas, the intern responsible is probably getting ass raped for it.

on Jul 13, 2013

psychoak
Alas, the intern responsible is probably getting ass raped for it.

In a perfect world, the person reading the story... would realize... while she's reading or at least after the 1st one, that she's been had.

on Jul 13, 2013

True, but in a perfect world the media wouldn't be dominated by airhead bottle blondes that can only do their job because it entails mindlessly reading a teleprompter on cue.

on Jul 13, 2013

Thanks Pacov for the games last night! Had fun being semi-trollish for my last promotials.

 

I made Bronse III!!!!! hahahahahaahaha

on Jul 13, 2013

I'm just glad I could help someone break into bronze III - grats! 

on Jul 14, 2013

Random thing that I just learned - there's a simple command you can use that, at least for me, makes all my internet connections better.  For instance, after a bit, I could click on a youtube vid and it might take a few seconds to start playing - same thing with a twitch vid.  Running this command brings me back to immediately loading vids on open.  Anyway, if you want to give it a go, just open a command prompt or create a batch file and run the following:

ipconfig /flushdns

on Jul 14, 2013

soo.... this is on the air client and might not be actual... but if it is..

 

Items Changes

Aegis of the Legion

  • Recipe Cost is(down from 625)
  • Now gives 200 health (down from 250)
  • No longer gives 20 MR
  • Passive now gives 20 MR (up from 15)
  • Passive now gives armor
  • Effect is no longer increased by 50% on minions

 

Locket of the Iron Solari

  • Recipe Cost is now 600 (up from 520)
  • Now gives 20 armor (down from 35)
  • No longer gives +10 HP5
  • has new passive - "Legion: Grants nearby allies +20 Magic Resist and +10 Health Regen per 5 seconds"
  • Now builds from Aegis of the Legion

 

Runic Bulwark

  • Removed from the air client

 

 

also of note - udyr has been disabled on pbe.  This means most likely that they put in a "fix" for a problem and its still there.  The good news is that they appear to have people back and actively working on whatever the problem was to prep for a release early this week.  If they sort w/e the problem was on pbe today, I'd expect to see him live on Mon/tues.

on Jul 14, 2013

streaming some ranked silver 2 with karl atm

on Jul 15, 2013

fixed - i got mad a pal over a game tonight.  fug it. 

on Jul 15, 2013

#adc

- The support is the teams support. Not the ADCs. You should be able to function safely after 20 minutes without constant protection. I mean how can you show any baron presence if it's 26 minutes and you want them to 2v0 botlane while you get farm?

Even though supports are the play-makers and certainly have a massive impact on winning/losing botlane, at the very least you should be able to do your job as an ADC and last-hit. Barring very extreme situations like dying level 1 or 2. if you expect your support to do their job with warding/zoning/controlling the lane then you gotta do your part as well. Being 30 CS behind at 10 minutes is not doing your job.

Part of your job is also you gotta know how to build your carries. Blue Ez doesn't build SotEL anymore (it's more like "Indigo Ez" nowadays). You certainly don't buy a Warden's Mail for a Frozen Heart ().

(though for vayne i was watching LCS games and the Vaynes were maxing W and going BotRK > PD but that is still crazy nonsense in my opinion and i'm still convinced it is inefficient except for 2v1 lanes Perhaps the idea might be to do a lower DPS build in favor of the mobility that PD offers. So maybe BotRK > PD isn't so bad for her specifically but it'd be bad for anyone else).

While obviously it is more acceptable to screw around with experimental builds in normals you shouldn't have these difficulties in ranked (if the Twitch/Nami game you are more than welcome to complain about me building Morellonomicon against a 4 AP team rather than Locket to protect my fed ADC from Lissandra Burst since there wasn't much sustain on the enemy team)

 

- Mid/Late game just because you say that you're going to go farm doesn't mean that you should go farm regardless of what happens. This is a thing that you tend to do and it has led into other problems. Not only do you just walk to where you said you are gonna farm, you rarely move your camera or check up on the rest of the team to see if you need to react.

- You push/go oom/shop wayyyyy too much. Sometimes it's a good idea to push lane and it's certainly fine to use a skill to get a few CS but mindlessly using skills off of CD with no bluebuff is \: Such as pushing against someone with a red buff (or Zac in general who is very difficult to ward against). Or right after the enemy support pink wards my explorer ward despite leaving it alone for 30-45 seconds... (though i didn't play that level 3 gank very well since the Sona baited me into it

- When you fall behind you need to not mindlessly run back to lane to die over and over again. This is espiecially true if your other 2 lanes are winning. If your other lanes are winning you should make zero plays. Give up CS, fall behind. It's better to exit the laning phase 50 CS and 2 kills behind than 30 CS but 5 kills behind. The game is not always on your shoulders as an ADC.

If you have already taken their tower (perhaps your jungler ganked or they shopped at a bad time) and your tower is up while you are behind, just rotate mid instead of trying to defend it and potentially die. Trading towers is better than dying and losing a tower.

Trying not to make any plays is less true if you are top lane (eg, proxy signed). If every lane is losing, you might as well try to make plays because you won't be able to win without doing "something".

- You probably were on a bit of a tilt already since you went so many negative games earlier today (0/4/4, 0/6/2, 4/5/6). You probably weren't playing at your top performance to begin with so it seems irrational to start critiquing everyone else's play when you were the single common denominator those three games.

#karl

i'm pretty sure Karl muting you wasn't the worst thing to do that game. You were saying stuff like "eat a dick" and trash talking him/blaming mistakes to the point to encourage the rest of your team (and hell, the enemy team in post-game chat) to report Karl.

The only reason for me playing ranked on this account with karl is to try to help HIM hit gold.

This sort of false sense of victimization. "IM doing YOU a favor so you better serve me and make me happy". Espiecially since you know that your Stattik Shiv + BoS ahse build has a ... history with everyone who reads these blogs.

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Ashe

They really aren't rushing that Stattik with a Vampiric Scepter and a BoS.

You're also maxing E... for farming i guess? How you gonna kite with that BoS and Stattik but a shitty Q?

#a shit friend

Regarding Karl "abandoning" you and being a "shit friend and support": Karl left you to go try to defend midlane ~16 and 18/19 minutes. You died when he was mid @16 but his presence allowed them to make a play mid (even if it wasn't the best). You re-group midlane at 17.

Note that they were literally knocking on your mid inhibitor at 19 minutes. Your support cannot simply stay in lane with you bot while you lose that inhibitor trying to get their bot outer tower.

When he is midlane @20 he is trying to take enemy tower while you are farming botlane (granted you died before that fight but that is a situation of him trying to win somewhere else on the map while you farmed botlane)

Minutes 21-23 they are sieging mid and you're all grouped. End up taking inhibitor.

Starting at 24 minutes you pretty much just run around to push things and die. You make 3 back-to-back "plays" on the botlane tower where Hecarim just runs you down to kill you while the rest of the team is posturing around baron. Then you act like you dying 1v1 multiple times is some great opprotunity the rest of the team is missing out on ("if i can tell you where the jungler is exactly going to be in one minute and won't be at baron for sure and you don't use it - you fucked up son. Don't use voice chat if you can't bother to listen"). Keep in mind at the time of this voicechat your team gets caught 3v4 and they get baron.

(that said, maybe it would have been the best plan to 3 man push botlane to try to accomplish dragon + tower and give up baron since you were not going to win a straight up 5v5 with you having no damage. But the rest of your team was not doing that plan at all. League is often a game of 5 people doing a stupid thing beating 4 people doing a smart thing).

 

So Karl "left" you twice before 20 minutes and for reasonably decent reason. The rest of the time you were doing the angry trolling thing that you do all the time.

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