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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

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Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

Comments (Page 264)
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on Aug 09, 2013

LoL has way to many stats. I can't bother, I just want to bash peoples heads in and get bloodlust.

  

on Aug 09, 2013

I played versus an AP corki mid that was diamond V in my series. He did fine in terms of farming and cleaning up a few kills but I don't see what all the rage is about. Our Orianna out preformed him in team fights because she has a game changing ult. Does corki have anything game breaking in his kit? No.

on Aug 09, 2013

Re Cow's Corki Experience:

Yeah, the Orianna completely outlaned him even though she died once 1v1 due to underestimating him.  He got three kills from the team fight cleanup... but that IMO was because your team didn't realize how dangerous his R was...

1. Not sure your team would have won the team fight that Corki got a triple on so handily if they had been facing a different mid... one that had something the kids are referring to as "CC".

2. Don't think they would have stayed and played around with an AP Corki if they realized the danger.

It just seems... gimmicky.  As soon as people know it's "A thing" I think they'll adapt to it better.  Does seem like it might have potential though... maybe I'm just choosing to believe it's not OP because that means they might nerf my favorite ADC.

on Aug 09, 2013

Krazikarl
What is the point of AP Corki anyway? I mean, what does he do that makes up for all the weaknesses that the build has?

If you just want poke and some escape, why don't you just play Ahri or Kass or something? You get some CC that way too.

well - here's the strengths.  The super long range poke on his rockets can cast dots.  And the dps that come off his occasional big rocket is a little surprising.  He has decent wave clear as well (though expensive at early levels).  He can also kite really well.  His ult can store 7 rockets (2 big ones included).  And you can cast them mid/late every 1 second or less.  So, you can long range spam dmg like artillery. 

The biggest problem I have with him atm is still trying to mix things up a little too often.  You really need to be disciplined to be standoffish.  His level 6 wave clear is really good and would enable roaming or at least quick basing (you can q and then rocket the ranged casters and they die instantly even with no items). 

Anyway, its just some trendy crap.  You start to see the strength when you get a liandri's though.  Being able to chunk folks at such sick range is good.

on Aug 09, 2013


Anyway, its just some trendy crap.  You start to see the strength when you get a liandri's though.  Being able to heal folks at such sick range is good.

on Aug 09, 2013

heh... you should have seen the horrible things vlad was doing to my ap corki build.  Galio with his bulwark heal + spirit visage... and me having dots procs... he could have taken a nap in my base. 

on Aug 09, 2013

Thundercles
maybe I'm just choosing to believe it's not OP because that means they might nerf my favorite ADC.

ap corki is by no means, in any way shape or form, OP.  I very much doubt we will see a nerf because some goof ball made his reddit vid.  People will likely play it for the next 2-3 days and then forget about it. 

on Aug 09, 2013


ap corki is by no means, in any way shape or form, OP.  I very much doubt we will see a nerf because some goof ball made his reddit vid.  People will likely play it for the next 2-3 days and then forget about it. 

It doesn't have to be OP to be OP.  Morello and the powers that be in Riot's balance team don't like this sort of thing... remember AP Ez Mid?  R.I.P.

If AP Corki (IF!) ends up being a really good mid that has some really advantageous matchups, then they will get rid of it.  Let's say one team first picks Corki, then that would limit the other team's options for Mid selections without the other team even having to pick their Mid since they can just make Corki their ADC.  Pretty much it would be the exact same thing that was going on where Support Elise was popular.

on Aug 09, 2013

ah - I get what you are saying.  Honestly, I think the type of people that will try it out won't have the necessarily skill level to pull it off well and get sick of it quickly. 

on Aug 09, 2013

um... so I think when we were dicking around, brad wong may have come across the new secret op - Galio.  Like... holy shit OP.  Like I could start tanking a tower with 300 hp and leave it after tanking for 5 seconds with 2k + hp.  Nerd crafting and testing continuing.  There is some very interesting potential here imo - specifically for strong siege comps. His cd on his bulwark late game is 7.62 second and lasts 4 seconds.  So, there's only 3.62 seconds of down time.  Anywho... I'm thinking...

on Aug 09, 2013

tried to build as jungler - mixed crap results.  His ganks would be halfway decent and sustain in the jungle is fine, but too much of a mana whore.  Mid is prob optimal, but top is doable.  A little clumsy as a support. 

All of my builds so far require athene's for the mana/cd.  SV is where you get insane synergy.  He benefits from every single thing about SV.  Def a rush item imo after your mana problem is solved. 

 

on Aug 09, 2013

At mid, you can use the wraith camps to heal you.  If your dmg is too high, just aa one and hit bulwark.  Instant restore of like 300-400 hp one you have a couple points in bulwark.  You get 40 hp back from every attack.  So its an instance 40 hp X 4 - 160 hp.  It deminishes by 20% on the next hit, but there's only time for 8 total attacks on you by the time bulwark runs out.  So, that's 22 hp X 4 = 88 hp.  So, a total of 248 hp gained less w/e damage you took (which won't be much).  Also consider that I'm not factoring in the bonus heal you get from AP.  Anyway, late game with bulwark maxed (and admittedly a super fed build vs stupid bots), I had a base heal of about 220 HP per EVERY HIT (eg I tank a minion wave and I'm getting 220 or so per creep or somethign stupid like that)... Now... add on the bonus from SV.  Enter SICK town.  All of a sudden the more people attacking you, the more HP you have.

on Aug 09, 2013

anywho - I think its pretty legit.  21/9 setup.  Can do w/e with runes.  MR gives ability power due to passive.  2 must items for the build - athene's and the SV.  Weaknesses to the build.  Getting silenced/stunned before casting bulwark.  If you can avoid that, then its super fun times.  His bulwarks stats are out of control.  75 mr (which gives him added dmg) + 75 arm for 4 seconds.  You time that shit right and go beast mode.

 

Other random thing, but not confirmed.  At least in my bot match, Aegis and its upgrade are stacking.  Guessing its the same on live. 

on Aug 09, 2013

last thing I'm pondering... so I have the base core on galio - athene's/sv.  He can actually get around pretty quickly just using his e with no boots.  I wonder about mobo boots as he's already super tanky.  Could potentially be quite useful for ganking lanes. 

on Aug 10, 2013

Happy birthday, Sharpie!

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