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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Aug 12, 2013

Well, some fun games last night a few frustrating ones.  Last 2 games had our top laner's with either major connection problems or dc's.  End result was unwinnable games against weaker opponents.  The 2nd dc loss was a bit stuck in my craw.  heh... I stayed up late to get that game in because I was so annoyed about the loss in the previous game due to dc.  Ah well... whatchagonnado.

So, I tried the galio setup that Brad suggested - honestly, I can't say for sure how well it worked as we had our dc problem and that changed a few things.  I rushed chalice and boots 1. Then immediately went for twin shadows.  At the next opportune moment, I went bot for a gank.  We only caught 1 if I'm remember right, and it did not put us into a position to dragon if I'm remembering right... I also might not remember right.  Anyway, right after that I finished athene's and starting on liandry's.  I think that's a reasonable way to build galio.  Pretty important to secure that dragon.  I don't really like rushing TS, but it makes sense and doesn't really hurt galio. 

on Aug 12, 2013

This is worth checking out imo.  Actually, its a pretty decent way to get some free rp.  American Express has a prepaid debit card that gets you quite a bit of RP for next to nothing.

http://about.americanexpress.com/news/pr/2013/amex-prepaid-partner-league-of-legends.aspx

With RP+ from American Express Serve, players can earn Riot Points in a number of ways:

  • +1,000 RP with complete registration -- no credit check, no activation fee, no minimum balance
  • +1,000 RP the first time you load $20 to your Account
  • +10,000 RP the first time you use Direct Deposit to add $20 or more to your Account
  • +1,000 RP for your first 10 purchases with your Card

If you really wanted to milk this, you could likely setup a small direct deposit to this card to get that 10k rp.  Personally, I'd likely load $20 to the ard and get 2k rp. 

I don't think you can get these yet... pretty sure they are out soon.  But its official.

Odds are you could put $20 on the card, get your 2k rp, then credit the entire $20 to your amazon account (if you use amazon).  You wouldn't lose anything and would gain 2k rp. 

 

This also sounds like a completely horrible idea for riot to be involved in. 

on Aug 12, 2013

So you figured out my master plan.  Oh well, it can't be helped.

on Aug 12, 2013

lucian is due to be released tomorrow say reddit pants

on Aug 12, 2013

7k

 

It's the 7k! Good job on the streaming!

on Aug 12, 2013

Pwnt

 

on Aug 12, 2013

Grendelgod
It's the 7k! Good job on the streaming!

heya bro - add pacov as a pal.

on Aug 12, 2013

2,000,000 views gets next prize - nice try hedgie

who gives out a prize for a million views... bush league.  My bet is that rui won.

on Aug 12, 2013

Hey - I think I might vlog the end of the night recap/my thoughts.  Check back here in 5 min if u want to watch live.  I'll have twitch chat up if you want to jibba jabba with me.  Back in 5.  Will post a link prob in the morning for anyone interested. 

 

on Aug 13, 2013

link to vlog incoming then off to bed.  Quite a bit of rambling out of pacov... :/

on Aug 13, 2013

off to sleep - here's the vod http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2742350

 

Uploading to youtube, so check there if that works better for you and interested.

 


 

on Aug 13, 2013

streaming an in house game.  Live in about 5 min

on Aug 14, 2013

I'm off to bed.  I spoke with my 7k contest winner (I don't think its rui anymore).  I tried to gift them the prize but riot has a system in place that doesn't let you gift folks that you just added as pals.  Anyway, I'll keep trying over the next few days and let you folks know what I hooked him up with.  Hopefully you'll see our new pal in some games sometime soon. 

In house games - I'm tired and not going to go into this much atm, but I was extremely disappointed at our showing in game 1.  What we saw in game 2 was what I expected to happen.  That's entirely based on bot lane, btw... so please don't take offense. I thought we'd crush hard bot lane and instead got worked all game long.  Game 2... well, that wasn't a problem.  I took a more fuck cs fuck you mentality during initial laning and did everything I could to drop bot tower so we could roam quickly.  Then, everything fell into place for the outer towers.  Dropped bot, then mid, the top in quick order.  Just going to call out that it wasn't some amazing strategy outside of me decided to put as much pressure on bot tower to kill that quick.  We just got lucky on the timing for wiping the remaining towers imo.  Swan had a decent showing imo and I was decent about capitalizing on errors.

All of that said, I was completely defiled in the previous game... so, I don't really need called to the carpet or anything.  Couldn't get shit together in game 1.  Anyway, I will make some vids and put out both games on twitch/youtube for those that are interested tomorrow. 

on Aug 14, 2013

where's muh lucian?

on Aug 14, 2013


In house games - I'm tired and not going to go into this much atm, but I was extremely disappointed at our showing in game 1.  What we saw in game 2 was what I expected to happen.  That's entirely based on bot lane, btw... so please don't take offense. I thought we'd crush hard bot lane and instead got worked all game long.  Game 2... well, that wasn't a problem.

If you hadn't gotten sleepy, we would have been happy to play another game with the same teams.  Hedgie and I would have been happy to play again with the guys we had whether we won or lost, cause they all did their best to go along with the teams plans without having to be... badgered... into it.

Why do people always seem to get the notion to build Ashe in particular without damage?  I'm thinking some of our problems came from the Blue Ashe build that was going on bot lane, but I could be wrong.  Also, I shoulda banned your Cait.

Was some fun games!

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