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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Sep 16, 2013

cow... wouldn't hurt to post a link to the game or copy/paste the stats.  Also, I heard woong is a colossal douche (eg even pacov on an awful night isn't close).

Anyway, I survived my week long in law visit complete with babies. Literally, there was not a single night since last Sunday where I had less than 9 people in my house (just me and my wife normally).  This morning, everyone took off.  I sent them off, then went back to bed, then worked on cleaning up and relaxing.  Cannot tell you how happy I was.  All that, and got to watch some great games for worlds.

Tonight, I duo'd with bryff on my alt account.  I'm kind of thinking I'd love to hit gold on it for the free character... but at the same time feel like the purpose of my alt is just about expired.  In LoL, I created a few accounts for specific reasons.  The #1 reason was to practice roles that I was crap at without inconveniencing my pals - AND so I could practice those roles at lower elo.  Also, I occasionally have a retarded bug in me that likes grinding out levels.  Its completely stupid, but I like doing that crap sometimes.  That said - I can't really practice roles I'm weak at on this account (I need to practice mid primarily).  I don't have the runes, and my level of competition is likely > my current skill level at the role (def without the runes).  Anyway, if I hit gold with the account, its even worse... but my mmr is pretty high already.  I could tank and try to play mid every game with shit runes for the experience, but then I don't get the skin/character... ah well. 

Anywho - played 3 ranked with bryff.  2/1.  He's 1 win away from promoting to gold IV.  I think I'm mid 50ish in silver I for lp.  My last game of the night was easily the hardest I've had to work as a support in a long time (see pic above).  I decided I needed to skip team items and ward a shitton to have a chance at winning.  It paid off. 

on Sep 16, 2013

phage/tf nerf inbound

Phage

  • Now Gives +15 Attack Damage (Down from 20)
  • Passive's tooltip now says 'This Movement Speed bonus is halved for ranged champions.'

Trinity Force

  • Now gives +20 Attack Damage (Down from 30)
  • Passive's tooltip now says 'This Movement Speed bonus is halved for ranged champions.'
on Sep 16, 2013

God I hate Comcast.

I had that previous lag issue with them where I discovered that if I hooked my modem directly into the wall, the connection was fine, but if I hooked it into the splitter, horrible lag.  So I had to choose between TV and internet.  I choose internet for the time being and scheduled an appointment a week in advance with them to get a technician to fix it when I got back from a trip.

So I get back, take time off to make sure that I'm home...and nobody shows.  I call Comcast to see what is up...and its a 2 hour wait on the phone.  When I do get somebody, they say that there was an overall outage at some point in time, which got fixed.  As soon as there is an outage, that wipes all appointments apparently, so my appointment got canceled.  But they don't have to notify you that your appointment gets canceled, so they never told me that they weren't going to show.  Good times!

on Sep 17, 2013

I think I might be done with league for the season. The last two days I have had the most horrendous games. 

Teammates don't stop being aweful in Plat I. The duo queues are really annoying  (getting a diamond 3 duoed with a gold 5 on your team is 100% loss). Playing versus pros.... Corki is super op right now. Just an aweful experience the last 2 days.... just fucking aweful.  

on Sep 17, 2013

Krazikarl
God I hate Comcast.

Do you not have any other options in your area for ISP?  Having a "we don't contact you re: your appointment if there is an outage policy" is literally one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard.  I would have, at the least, demanded to speak with a manager after that crap and gotten some sort of compensation.  Hopefully you got something out of the pain in the arse other than an ulcer.

OMG_ZEX
I think I might be done with league for the season.

we'll see.  Last time you started belly aching about ranked was when you were gold I.  I believe you also quit then... only to hit plat after some hard work. 

on Sep 17, 2013

I've been alt account slumming it a bit to work on my mid/top mechanics.... pacovs alt/alt account... anywho - I'll sign into skype later.  If there's a chance for in house or ranked 5's, hit me up on skype as I likely won't log into my other account or be streaming again tonight.  Kind of thinking of reserving streaming just for in house games and ranked 5's atm, but undecided. 

 

Anyway, minor Lucian buff on pbe

Lucian

  • Base MP5 is now 7 (up from 6)
  • MP5 Per level is now .7 (up from .6)

That's a good change for him.  I always feel like I'm struggling a bit if I build him as a standard adc due to the mana problems. 

 

They are continuing to work on phage balance

Phage

  • Once again gives 20 AD (up from 15)
  • Now costs 475 (up from 375)

 
Trinity Force

  • Once again gives 30 AD (up from 20)
  • Costs 100 more due to Phage increase

 

The previous change on pbe was the lower dmg + a nerf for ranged ad's so that they only get half the MS bonus on hit/kill

on Sep 18, 2013

Ask me what I've learned so far re: mid laning?  Answer - jack shit.  I have an extremely low level account (I think its 9 now after a few days).  I literally bought ahri to practice her in particular.  I use my IP and the rune combiner to make better runes here and there.  Every single game I play against completely random variables... and stomp.  My last ahri mid game was a 3v1 (me = 1).  I end the game with like 20 kills.  Another game... no jungler... random roam from multiple lanes.  I also do well.  I guess I'm learning how to respond to weird shit.  I think I've had exactly 1 normal game where I go ahri against another mid... but then  the mid's skill level is super low.  I end up just relying on my plat farming mechanics and that's more than enough along with an all in here and there. 

The whole reason I decided to do this was to that I felt like my current mmr is way to high in normal and ranked to successfully work on my mids without being a huge detriment to my team.  I would certainly feel like a douche to call mid in a plat 5 ranked and then put on a show of crapiness.  That role is much better off with someone that is good at it.  And our little crew has more than a few mid loving folks... so I end up screwing you fellas over if I call mid in one of our games with our mmr being what it is... so pacov hits alt acct town.  I guess I am learning a bit about reacting to folks and some intelligent mechanics for all ins.  Suppose that might be worth the time.  Always felt like I was a lacking a little in my all in calls as adc anyway.  Getting that sorted as a mid will likely translate a little over to my adc.  Anyway, blahblah done.  Night all!

on Sep 18, 2013

So I was playing a little bit of ranked last night and decided to bust out the ol' Zyra pick since Sona was taken and I was laning with a Caitlyn.  Played pretty well I think, but it really didn't matter since the other teams Morde just demolished our Fizz and got out of control.  It was way late in the game when I finally noticed the summoner name of their Morde...

"You cannot defeat the ZenGod that is some bullshit!"

Our team lost but Zen and I had a good laugh over not noticing we were playing each other till the end of the game, and we queued up for one afterward that we won.  Very nice of him to replace the elo I lost in the first game if you ask me...

on Sep 18, 2013

haha - that's funny.    Glad you got a win on the next game with zen!

on Sep 18, 2013

wouldn't it be most productive to queue normals on your Alt if you wanted to practice mid?

You've already got some rune pages (at least armor/MR). Practicing against level 30s makes a big difference and hopefully you can get the last remaining runes without too much difficulty (whereas going all the way to level 30 is a bitch).

And i can't imagine your alt's Normal MMR being too high.

on Sep 18, 2013

yeah... I don't know... maybe?  I did this sort of thing a long time ago and the result was becoming very good with support.  Fug if I know at any rate...

on Sep 18, 2013

I queued up with some friends the other night that have a fairly low MMR and went against a 200 something win Udyr top lane.  That didn't feel right.  Not sure what it would be like beating up on people who have been playing League for a week.  I'm not judging you, especially since I used to smurf it up with my IRL high school buddies so I've had a few noob stomp sessions in my time.  However, that was a while back and I can't imagine how much worse it would be for the beginners if I did it now.  I'd think it's less douchey to bum your teammates out by losing your lane for a while in Normal games, than ruin games for people who are trying to learn to play since you already have a smurf account?

Keep in mind that matchmaking takes into account your number of total games played as a factor, so your Cheesus account will not only have lower MMR but the lower amount of games played will give you some easier competition to learn new roles.  Even if it's hard to lane, I'd think that you'd learn a lot more from the losses against level 30's than the wins against level 9's.  I mean, you can pretty much play like a dumpster and get pentas at that level so I'm thinking you might develop some bad habits playing on your alt alt account.

Edit:  Also keep in mind that MMR is solely related to the game mode you're playing in per Riot.  If you play as Cheesus when you're learning new champs in Normal games, it won't take into account your Ranked MMR when you try as hard as you can to win.  So when you struggle while learning new champs and roles, it will lower your MMR and make the competition easier if you just use the account for that purpose.

on Sep 18, 2013

Whenever I queue with my low elo friends we almost always get owned.  Doesn't matter what lane I'm playing.

on Sep 18, 2013

maybe... some of it is just slumming it for a wee bit.  I've been fing around a bit with co-op games and arams on the alt.  Been having a bit of play time with ahri, so that helps.  Had a nasty anxiety attack today.  Ended up taking the day off of work and just trying to take it easy. 

on Sep 19, 2013

I did log in last night on my main and played a bunch of arams with cow/karl/THEDUMPTRUCK/ and some other fellow I haven't played with before but was entertaining to chat with.

 

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