Pacov's place to enjoy the show.

I've locked/archived this thread/blog and have started a new discussion over here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/454943/

Please join me if you like.

 

 

 


 

 

Am I streaming


 

 

Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

Comments (Page 279)
334 PagesFirst 277 278 279 280 281  Last
on Sep 10, 2013

I'm the only one allowed to complain about dem babies.  Its like 10pm... and babies keep running in here every 5 minutes.  I super want to play a game of ranked... or anything not involving babies. 

on Sep 11, 2013

babies disappeared for ranked team games.  Apparently it only takes 4 hours to get em chilled out.  So, in my house, normally there is just me and my wife + 1 cat.  Tonight - 3 babies, sis/bro in law, pa/ma in law, another bro/sis in law.  Only people that left were 1 sis/bro in law.  Suffice to say, I'm quite happy I got a few hours to play some games without much interruption. 

We played 3 ranked 5's game (didn't get a chance to play any solo queue due to baby town).  Had 3 wins.  Pretty legit wins at that.  The current team philosophy re: me is that pacov = adc 100% of the time if cait is free.  Otherwise, we toss it to thunder and I run support.  Glad my cait is appreciated to that degree.  Wish my other adc's were considered, but frankly, I like getting to run support to mix things up, so I'm quite happy to run support.  So, all is well. 

We had a really good instance where karl played a big factor in getting our mid/bot in control 1 game.  I had much better mechanical skills in 2/3 games I think.  The game where I fell briefly behind with a death, I rocked with 20-30 more cs than the enemy adc.  Anyway, we played pretty well and adapted a bit based on personnel. 

I made some missteps re: positioning a few times tonight.  I know what I did wrong, so its fairly easy to fix, but its like my brain was a smidge out of sync.  I compensated by taking a more safe route after I missed the previous safe route (eg I didn't die for poor positioning), but I cost the team a small amount in positioning here and there.  That's me being overly critical, though.  I performed reasonably well as did everyone else. 

Oh - I'm taking over for hedgie as mid, though.  In our last game he was the only one that died.  And twice at that. 

Jokes aside - since I've been playing with the team, I've felt a smidge outclassed in exactly 1 game.  There are quite a bit of variations in ranked 5's.  You could very well stumble upon a team of 5 challengers trying to climb up with a new team.... while ranked solo queue, you are typically matched with similar ranks.  Ranked 5's blows that away.  Anywho... that's all.  Night folks!

on Sep 11, 2013

wb forums

on Sep 11, 2013

here are the ranked 5's vids from yesterday for anyone that is interested.  Uploading to youtube.  Eventually I'll tag all the vids ranked 5's so it will be easy to search on the youtube site for anyone that gives a rip.

on Sep 12, 2013

Decent odds we could get a straight up 5v5 game going against jona and his pals sometime in the near future (we'd get 5 of our regulars vs him and 5 of the folks he regularly plays with).  Just before heading off to bed, he pm'd me to see if I had 5 ready for a game.

short ranked recap - went a smidge on tilt last night - methinks the chaos of my home life having 10 additional people staying in my house is getting to me... played 1 ranked with bryff - win.  1 ranked with hunny - loss - hunny kinda blew it imo.  kind of a bummer as it was a promo game for him and he would have moved to gold II.  Then we played some normals for a bit.

on Sep 12, 2013

You played 2 with me, 1-1

on Sep 12, 2013

righto

oh - and our ranked 5's team is silver 1 now.  We were promoted the other night.

on Sep 12, 2013

After duo queuing, I still need more practice as Irelia.  I was even with the top game 1, cs and scorewise, but lost tower.  Game 2 I was ahead cs but the shen picked up kills in other lanes and I lost tower.  I think that when we've been playing in houses and normals, that most of the time I don't get paired with someone that I couldn't beat, but if they did I got stomped pretty badly.

So what I'm saying is, I want to play with people, and I want to practice as Irelia more.

I also think that I need more diversified builds.  I need to figure out how I want to build vs champs like kennen, vlad, and shen.

on Sep 12, 2013

This might be of value to you, bryff - http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Irelia

What I'd do is look and see if its a win or loss.  Then look at the build and who they are laned against.  There are reasonable odds that if you see someone playing irelia multiple times on that list, that they have a good idea how to counter this or that. 

on Sep 12, 2013

Got plat I! One more step! 

on Sep 12, 2013

Grats, cow!  Keep going!  Any observations or call outs along your way to Diamond?  Competition level, etc?  Anything big differences you see? 

Holy crap... I had just enough energy to play like a few quick bot games tonight... completely wiped out from this work week and the family visit.  My mom/father in law took off tonight... but are coming back in a day or two.  Going to have people here until Sunday it looks like. Feel like I really want to take Monday off and just relax. 

on Sep 12, 2013

You should really check out lolsage.  It's like lol king for stats, etc... just a heck of alot better.  Take a look at all the graphs and views they provide.  Here's one from a ranked 5's game the other day:

http://www.lolsage.com/hive/match/na/d1LdHeWFlxgH0yUXIoVlAQP3AQN2ZGL011UXNVboJvnnzvHozliINtN/#shard=seattle

 

on Sep 13, 2013

That site is really nice. It seems my best matches have been against Vayne this season lol?

on Sep 13, 2013

hmmm well I won one match in Plat I tonight and instead of my usual 20-25 lp I got 5.... I think they don't want THAT many people getting into diamond. 

General Observations:

-As far as how Plat has been since I have been into it. I have gotten to play mid most of my games so that is good.

-I find that there are very few disconnects.

-Most games are fairly even unless there was some miserable play at the beginning of a game that gave some one a huge lead. If that happens its usually a straight up face roll game.  

-On two separate instances I have played with a diamond/gold diamond/silver duo queue and both times it was almost an instant loss. The skill level of gold and silver players is much worse than plat.

-I also find that team comp starts to play a big roll in the games. if you have a strong early game comp vs a strong late game comp and the game goes late even if you have a 10-15 kill lead you will most likely lose.

-Disengagey 4 man pushes with a tryn or another split pusher is also very strong way to play. 

-Usually if a person plays a weird champ like poppy, fiora, Cassiopeia they are good with them.  I have been carried by a few poppy's haha

-People build smart for there lane opponents, you see alot of seekers/doran shields/merc treads etc... to counter lane opponents

 

on Sep 13, 2013

How far are you in plat 1 when you started getting 5 lp?  Did you get hit immediately (eg I'm at 0 lp.  I won a single game and now am 5 lp) or did you get normal lp for a few games at plat 1 then get hit)? 

Anyway, hopefully we can get an in house or ranked 5's going soon.

334 PagesFirst 277 278 279 280 281  Last