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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Oct 11, 2013

@Pacov

In all seriousness, I'm not sure what was going on with you last night.  Were you tilted so badly that you didn't realize that you were actually playing worse than the friends that were supposedly trolling you?  Do you actually not realize that you make folks play worse when you're making non-stop sarcastic/negative comments about how they're playing and how the games going?

It's great that you wanna expand the people you're playing with but I think you should maybe take a break from the game for a night when you're in whatever mood you were in.  I find it remarkable that you've found a group of pals who can have fun while you're constantly mocking them as you're making non-stop bad plays and mistakes of your own, but I'm thinking you're not realizing how many people don't really enjoy that atmosphere.

Just something to keep in mind when you're playing with the new blood.

 

on Oct 11, 2013

in house 5v5 starting in a few min.  guessing we play 2 games.

on Oct 12, 2013

had a lot of fun tonight. I was able to go adc every game which is always fun for me anyway. 

Game 1 - jinx.  They put a ton of pressure on bot, but our other lanes dominated.  My support was a bit smeh (weakest player on either team imo (hunny had him as his support the next game - so I'd wager he will agree).  Anyway, bot takes a ton of pressure, but other lanes do well.  I end with 7/4/14 on jinx.  The weird thing to me - I certainly wasn't a game changer.  I played  ok overall, but they banned out jinx the rest of the night. Not entirely sure why.  Maybe someone else on my team played her?  Honestly, not sure why it was suddenly ban worthy.

Game 2 - trist.  This was an absolute stomp.  Game ends surrender at 20.  We pick off their jax at the start of the game during an invade... who eats a red pot, flashes and dies.  Then, for some crazy ass reason, they swap malzahar to bot lane to fight trist/thresh - also they don't give malz blue buff.  So, really, its just a matter of time until he's trashed.  We freeze the lane and completely zone him out for 1-2 minutes, then start pressuring.  That and our jungle immediately went to support our top while their jungle did extremely little to help out malz.  Anyway, bad strat and it just results in a trollish stomp on our part.

Game 3 - my fav game of the night.  I end up with a replacement support - eg we added a new, unranked guy.  He goes thresh and plays quite well off his high arse.  Hunny ends up running blitz as support for some reason.  Anyway, we have a bunch of good fights.  Things go back and forth a bit.  We make a few unorthdox decisions here and there.  Interesting at the very least. We end up winning the game by outplaying them while they had baron buff and were going at one of our outer turrets.  We end up acing them and then tanking the 2 base towers to end the game about 3 seconds before anyone is back up.  We had some really decent communication on and off.  Particular, Dan calling out to keep on ryze multiple times helped my tired arse stay focused.  The mid laners on my team did really well in all 3 games. 

 

Anyway, it was fun.  Game 3 was def my fav anyway.  I might break the vids out later and post on youtube, but it will be the last vid you see on the twitch archive if you want to take a look. 

on Oct 12, 2013

This cracks me up way more than it should: 

on Oct 13, 2013

ranked 5's begin.  streaming... might play 2

on Oct 14, 2013

playing in house 5v5s - mostly regular crew streaming

on Oct 14, 2013

short vlog incoming - probably of interest to folks that follow the stream or those I play w regularly.  2-5 min from now

on Oct 15, 2013

and I made a nearly 60 minute vlog... hurm.  "short" vlog indeed.

http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/3086346

 

Uploading to youtube - no link until sometime tomorrow.  Take a look if you like.

on Oct 15, 2013

Re: Comic Books

I love comic books.  Favorites were Gen 13, X-Men, Preacher, and The Maxx.

 

Re: Experimental Roles 

I see the appeal of Lissandra support, especially to go with a Karl Rammus.  Hunny and I were living in terror, so much that Hunny didn't spec his E the entire laning phase so that he wouldn't push the lane and make us a free meal for you guys.

But I also see the benefits of Teemo.  TF is great on him cause he scales with the AP and can proc the on-hit by planting shrooms, and maybe a he'd make a decent split pusher? Probably never the best choice to have as your Marksman, but considering Liss support hasn't made an impact on the competitive scene as of yet maybe you shouldn't have gotten upset about the choice?  He did go 13/2 after all.

I'm not sure how you decide where the line gets drawn between hipster and troll champion picks.

 

Re: Negativity

Second inhouse game we played last night, I was complete trash.  There was a little good natured teasing when I gave up first blood.  Something about how Varus got the kill and it was fitting that the person who gave it to him was gonna have to lane against him, that sorta thing.  But nothing nasty, no sarcastic comments.  Hunny was super cool about Sona's magical hook attracting ass, never gave me any shit about losing our lane for us... probably cause he couldn't get a word in edgewise with me apologizing for being a dumpster.

So I think that helped me to get things together and not be a total waste mid and late game and we won.

 

tl;dr Comics are cool, graphic novels are better.  Negativity -> Team Playing Worse -> More Negativity -> Pissed Off Team Calling You Out On Your Mistakes ->Team And You Playing Like Shit -> No Es Bueno.

on Oct 15, 2013

So with the re-release of all the old holiday/special event skins what ones do you think you will be picking up?

I would really like to get headless hecarim, zombie ryze, reindeer kogmaw, maybe santa gragas and if any of the new harrowing skins are nice ill probably get them.

on Oct 15, 2013

Haunting Nocturne.

Really wish I could go back in time and buy every single limited skin... I wonder if people who did are super bummed that they're not exclusive, or super stoked that they all of a sudden have 500,000 RP?

on Oct 15, 2013

Have some of the skins been unlocked already?

 

on Oct 15, 2013

no I am just excited for the Halloween skins because I still have a lot of RP left over from that debit card dealio

on Oct 15, 2013

If you haven't seen this, you need to check it out.  A queue in lol based on what role and where you want to play is comin

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345&posted=1#post13575345

 

on Oct 16, 2013

I really hope they release more and more info about the new queue and we get to see it in action soon.

 

Honestly, the place I have the absolute least amount of fun in the game is in champ select.  In ranked you have your duo queues often taking up my best roles.  If duo queues are allowed, this mode means that the majority of the time I can completely avoid them by choosing either adc or support (eg I would get 1 of those roles for sure and the craptastic duo queue will be in another game). 

It also means that I can play the role I want 100% of the time when I'm solo.  That is flipping awesome.  How many games do I end up taking a role I don't even want to play for the benefit of the team?  Now, I won't have to do that stuff.  Anyway, its absolutely what the game is missing.  The fact that they say its "starting out" as its own queue means that if the experiment works it will roll to the other queues.

 

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