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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Oct 19, 2013

Morello re: support changes in season 4:

We've never done gold flow work on them before, directly. Understandable though.

We're buffing support gold a lot - we're going to have to do a lot of champ-specific changes (and yes, some nerfs) because they've never been balanced to scale at all. If they get to scale, then it needs to be reasonable in how and why. More on this soon.

on Oct 21, 2013

Saw a fun idea for an in game icon.  Add a ham button to signal your team that you are about to go ham... oh, the fun I would have.

 

on Oct 21, 2013

Well... now I'm starting to get more excited about ranked again.  It just usually doesn't feel "worth it" to me to play normals unless I'm with pals.  Ended up playing a couple with Bryff.  We crushed it pretty well in game 1.  Game 2 I made a bad decision which put me mid (the decision was to get bryff top as I was 1st pick - but then we end up with someone else picking support/jungle/adc, so I get to play my best role... mid).  Anyway, did not go so well. 

Their jungle j4 kept pressuring mid and caused me to lose out on a lot of cs.  My jungle took a late blue and only visited mid for clean up duties once.  Anyway, I played ok for a bit and then pretty miserably.  Honestly, I don't know how I could have played it much better (which might also be why I'm an amazing mid).  I can evade j4 pretty well as graggy when he comes for a gank, but I lose money.  But my jungle aatrox didn't capitalize on consistently over extended brand and didn't take our 1st blue until about 5-6 min in.  So, brand gets to come back to lane with a blue and with jungle pressure to pretty much pressure me out.  This results in a 4 man tower dive bot that I can't assist on as I'm forced out with low mana.  I tried to adapt by picking up a chalice to increase my mana regen, but by then it was way too late. 

Anyway, not really sure what else I could have done.  I certainly have a lower skill cap at mid than in other roles, but I really think I needed my jungler to alleviate the pressure.  I certainly could have played better though.  Ah well.  All said and done, in the future if I'm duo'd with bryff, I'll just pick whatever role I want if I'm 1st pick and let him.  Best to keep me out of mid at the plat level of play at any rate.  ANOTHER reason why I'm really looking forward to the new queue system that matches you based on skill in a role.  That would help me a ton, I'd think, to work on my play. 

I'll likely be on a for a bit of LoL tonight - think I may have temporarily gotten my fill of marvel heroes. 

on Oct 21, 2013

Thinking about (but not sure if I will atm) having a 10k views on the twitch stream skin give away. 

on Oct 21, 2013

7k obviously a more powerful number

on Oct 21, 2013

let's do a give away when the total number of hours your played in dota 2 = total number views. 

on Oct 21, 2013

ok then - 10,001 views give away.  I'm at 8600 at.  Math says I'm about 3-4 weeks away from hitting 10k without inflation.  The prize will be 1 skin.  I MIGHT be willing to shell out for a legendary, but I'm good for a decent skin at any rate. 

Contest is for anyone that follows the stream/this thread.  Keep in mind that if you aren't on my pals list, I need to add you and it takes 2 weeks for me to be able to gift you anything.  Anywho, there you have it.  10,001 views doesn't mean all that much to me, but I like to give back to my pals from time to time and it seems like an interesting number.  Anyway, screenshot or it didn't happen.  Also, if its anything like my last giveaway, we had a bunch of spam views towards the end, so keep an eye on the stream when it gets close (I won't be hinting when its close btw). 

 

Night all and thanks for the games tonight!

on Oct 22, 2013

I have reached the point where I think skill wise I am not good enough to get to diamond with my favorite champions and I need to start playing the rofl stomping meta champions... sad day...

on Oct 22, 2013

If you have not signed up yet, you can for PBE ATM.  http://pbesignup.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/pbe

 

on Oct 22, 2013

OMG_ZEX

I have reached the point where I think skill wise I am not good enough to get to diamond with my favorite champions and I need to start playing the rofl stomping meta champions... sad day...

Here is the Lolking of a friend of mine who is making his way through Diamond.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19606889#ranked-stats

As you can see, he didn't get to where he is playing OP FotM's and I feel that you're just as good mechanically as he is IMO.  Gotnades was using a champ he doesn't play all the time but was still beating him up in lane the other day so the guy can't have Scarra level mechanics or anything right?  

Maybe Viktor is a "Stealth OP" champ, but I don't know... Brand doesn't seem like a piece of shit champ either.  I think there is just something you might be missing in your game that I'm not good enough to see.

I will say that Apoz plays similar champs to you but doesn't get upset about facing Fizz, Ahri, Zed, etc.  Not going on tilt in champ select is the real "Stealth OP" maybe?

on Oct 22, 2013

BUT OMG HE HAS THREE GAMES AS FIZZ THAT SOUL-SELLING SCUM OF THE EARTH

 

on Oct 22, 2013

Never mind what I said before.  Cow is a sellout and dead to us.  I have no Cow!

Edit: Realize now that you meant Apoz.  Cow and I can still be friends cause he don't play Fizz.

Moar Edit: Upon further inspection, Cow has a Ranked Kassadin game which is unforgivable.  Removing him from friends list immediately.

on Oct 22, 2013

Switching over to FotM champs is probably a bad idea.  IMO you just need to play A LOT fewer champs.

There is no doubt that somebody like Fizz is a bit better than Brand.  But the difference really isn't that great.  It will matter to a pro who practices a lot, but a guy who has 100 games played as Brand will generally beat a guy who had 10 games played as Fizz (all other things being even).

So, unless you plan on practicing FotM champs quite a bit in normals before breaking them into ranked, its probably not a strong plan IMO.

You also have to consider that time spent practicing those champs is inefficient - those champs are so often banned/picked by others that your practice time will often be wasted.  On the other hand, time spent practicing a less FotM champ is much more efficient.

Also, I'd imagine that players at Plat I are pretty used to playing against FotM champs, so you had better plan on being real practiced with them, otherwise going in with a not-so-practiced Fizz against a guy who has probably played against Fizz a million times over the last month might get ugly.

 

Really my impression is that Cow plays too many champions.  Most Diamond players that don't play 20 hours a day specialize in a few champions and get real good at them.  They don't play 70 different champions.  Hell, even pros don't have a huge pool like that.  Just find a few decent champions and specialize in them.

I know that people want to play matchups and all that, but you have to weigh the advantages of finding a superior matchup (assuming perfect play) against the reality that you only have so much time per day to get good on a specific champion.  It is very often the better choice to play a less good matchup to get access to a champion that you are more comfortable with.  Hell, you even see pros do this all the time, and they have more time to practice their matchups than we do.

on Oct 22, 2013

I feel like Brand is just not cutting it any more. Even if I farm well the items I require (Liandry's/crystal septre) seem to come to late up until I hit those core items I am not as effective as a mid assassin with even less gold than me.  Gragas is fairly strong in this meta but he is more or less a counter pick to certain champions and IMO should not be used otherwise. I think I just have to retire from mid lane while I try to climb to diamond.

I feel like a few champions I play are solid choices right now (malphite, mao, and gp in certain situations). My support champion pool is pretty limited being basically janna and if I am stuck supporting and she is picked already I have a very hard time helping my ADC.

My ADC pool is also horrible for this meta. Basically I can play MF and she isn't really a strong pick atm.

Its not that I am having an I-hate-assassin moment again I just feel like my ability to help the team and carry has been lower then usual when I play brand. If anything I have been hurting the team with my play. Missing skill shots in crucial situations loses games. More frequently then ever I have been getting out played by highly mobile champions and poor decisions on my part.

on Oct 23, 2013

2013 harrowing icons: 

Earn Greyor Icon (ghost dude) by purchasing a "mystery" gift for a friend!

Earn Vilemaw Icon (scary thing!) icon by playing a game of Twisted Treeline!

Earn Gargoyle Icon (statue) by equipping a new ward skin!

Earn Senna Icon (ghost girl) icon by buying any of the new harrowing content! (see below)

Earn Morellonomicon Icon (the book) by earning the other four!

FAQ: When will I get the icon? While it may take up to 72 hours, I expect most to be delivered within 4 hours.

 

Keep in mind this is currently a PBE test.  How you earn/what you earn might change when they go live. 

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