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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Nov 08, 2013

hmm...

Well - I honestly don't believe I need defensive runes of any sort based on the play style.  I'm really not at risk in the lane.  I show up, drop a tower, maybe make a little harass, and little else.  If someone makes a move, I've got turrets to fall back to and zyra cc.  It fairly effectively shuts the lane down.  And again, maybe play style is the issue.  The way I see it, there is a defensive line I draw behind the creep wave.  If the enemy team attempts to push to that, we thin out the wave so the turrets stay intact.  Enemy is too aggressive, defensive line goes back up, just further behind.  The goal isn't really pushing the lane as much as owning and controlling the flow so that its safe to farm and safe from ganks. 

On a top rotation, that could work, but then that means we need someone that can effectively hold a 2v1 lane.  And also means that we'd want to aggressively push the lane.  Which is doable, but increases the risk of the enemy jungler.  Solo top dinger could work like that, but I'd absolutely need some defensive runes.  Duo top could probably work, but I don't know that it would be superior, per se. 

One thing that was just an execution error on my/my teams part.  Even though we did manage to get the majority of the dragons in our last game of the night, I don't feel like we exuded as much control on drag/baron as we could have considering the double smite.

Still wish I had better ideas for itemization. 

on Nov 08, 2013

the zyra/heim lane is certaily able to farm in a 2v2 situation. When the double buffed level 4 Lee Sin comes botlane thru the unwarded tribush and blows up your 18 armor is when the defensive runes become more necessary. Also if you had any ADC other than  Caitlyn, who would need that lane presence to safely farm.

"""The goal isn't really pushing the lane as much as owning and controlling the flow so that its safe to farm and safe from ganks.""" that means that it is really important that your other lanes at least draw. Again it's that "support heim doesn't lose the game - but he doesn't help win it". The outcome of your game will largely come down to how good your sololanes do if you put a farming lane into a matchup that scales better with and without gold than you. ie, ADCs scale better than Zyra, Sona "reverse-scales" better than Heim. It's a bit different to have a borin farm lane if you are Kog or Vayne.

 

 

 

 

 

on Nov 08, 2013

Just played over on PBE in the one for all mode.  My team was 5 sonas for some reason vs lux.  I go 21/4/9 - loss .  That said, skill cap on pbe is pretty low and folks are just playig to check things out. 

on Nov 09, 2013

5-0 in solo queue so far. Last match was against high gold/low plat players so things are looking good.

on Nov 10, 2013

Riot LP system is so stupid.

So after losing my 2 promo series to Plat, I get hardcore clamped at +5 for a win, -4 for losses (sometimes -5) for at least 40 games.  I fight through that and get to about 95 LP, at which point it goes to +1 for wins, -3 or -4 for losses.  I get up to 98, then fall all the way down to 88 on a losing streak.  Then I play one final game for the night.  Riot is finally like "Screw it, clamping is off, you get at least +12 LP, you are in your promo series".  So random.

on Nov 10, 2013

watch this and think about it.

 

on Nov 10, 2013

Karl - I am not sure if the is correct, but I read somewhere that Riot's clamp on your elo will only wear off after a series of losses. So those 3 losses you had in a row removed the clamp. Which is pretty silly imo, but that is what I remember reading.

on Nov 10, 2013

For anyone that is interested, I've been uploading a bunch of new content to youtube (prob 10 vids yesterday and today).  Take a look if interested - mostly full game stuff and in house vids.  http://www.youtube.com/user/LeagueOfPacov/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=1

A couple other new vids are uploading now. 

 

 

on Nov 10, 2013

7-2 still being matched against high gold/low plat. Let's hope I can make it LOL.

on Nov 10, 2013

Better get that last game in.  Even if you don't hit gold you still get some crap - hoping you hit gold though!

on Nov 10, 2013

Well, lost promos again, which means I can't advance any more.

Game 1 of Promos: They kill our nexus at 23 minutes.  I go 3-1, rest of the team is 7-28 and openly incompetent.  A diamond 1 jungler couldn't have carried them - completely unwinnable.

Game 2 of Promos: Only winnable game of the day.  We get a bit ahead and the guy who has been calling shots wants to baron.  I don't really agree and make the mistake of not strongly calling it off.  We get caught at it.  I think I get hit with Leona ult and can't smite it, they steal and wipe us.  They get inhib right after and win from there.  I should have refused to baron.

Game 3 of Promos: Straight trolled.  Top wanted ganks but was pushing top hard (without wards) against their Trynd.  And they had a TF mid.  I told him I wasn't ganking a Trynd under tower with a TF around and no wards.  He got upset and just straight fed 5 or so kills by dying and running back to suicide on purpose.  Unwinnable.

 

Since I've now lost 3 promo series, I apparently lose ~20 LP a game.  Yay.  But maybe I get a lot for a win?  So I'm down to 40 LP but I might be able to work up quickly.

Game 4: Player 1 agrees to trade with Player 3, but goes afk so the trade doesn't happen.  So we get people playing champs they don't know how to play with the wrong runes/masteries.  Fun!  Mid actually ends up doing OK, but the support feeds fairly badly.  We kind of hold it together and might have had a chance if everybody else was not stupid, but our top is not so bright, so thats another loss.  This might have been winnable if I was a Diamond player...

Game 5: Mid doesn't connect on time, and top wants to wait for a pot despite the fact that I'm asking him to watch my red.  So enemy team steals my unwatched buff.  And our ADC is lagging super hard and can't farm and can't even support ganks.  We lose super hard.  Completely unwinnable, especially since I started down a buff (on Udyr, who needs that early game) due to nonsense.

Since I'm losing ~20 lp a game, those 5 losses mean I'm down to about 0 LP and have now lost a full divisions worth of progress in a bunch of games I could largely do nothing about (game 2 being the exception).

 

I had bad luck in promos and got trolled repeatedly or had bad teams.  Riot MURDERS you for losing promos - you get put in a situation where the LP losses screw you, so I basically can't advance any more.  Its a broken system in some cases, and I managed to find one.

on Nov 10, 2013

Really sorry to hear all that, karl.  Wish all the time you put in would have paid off... you've really been busting your arse and I'm sad to hear how things went.  Hopefully next season will be a quick and easy trip to plat for you.  Going from silver all the way to high gold I isn't exactly bad for the season, mind you - especially considering all the pain you had in silver promo series, etc.  Sorry again, though. 

on Nov 10, 2013

Its just frustrating because I got screwed by the stupid system (that I hated in the first place).  I won a fairly good percentage of my games.  But I didn't win the right games - the promo series.  And since I was getting troll/bad teams in promo games, I couldn't advance.

Its a system that can screw people if they have bad luck in promo series, and Riot doesn't care.  And I just got screwed all season by bad luck.

If the system treated each game the same like it did in the past, I would have been Plat a month ago.

on Nov 10, 2013

Hello friends! 

I really would like to play in the Hearthstone beta. I am not sure if this is a joke or not but if I get a bunch of people to go to this link:

http://FreeHearthstoneBetaKeys.com/?ref=B2u9s0rne

I am supposed to get a key. So maybe check it out?  

AH I see the scam... that isn't really a scam. You have to like there facebook page when you click the link for me to get a referral....  

 
It was a scam disregard pls

on Nov 11, 2013

Damn there are still people here !!!!

OMG still exists ! 

Dowloading the game currently but is it easy to find games or no one is still playing it ?

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