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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

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Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Mar 02, 2014

cow-  you'll hit diamond - just persist.  You are also positioned to beat any of there... until zen passes you.  Bust your butt and get it done eh

 

on Mar 02, 2014

It takes less time to sustain back to full % with armor rather than hp.  Example:  You build hp take 500 dmg, you need to sustain 500 hp.  You build armor and take 450 damage, you need to sustain 450 hp.  Which can maybe help you also, which is why I say wardens mail with blade is good.  But giant's belt is probably better overall as it already scales off base armor and mr.

on Mar 02, 2014

it's also a lot easier to sustain with 3 health pots that you get from "saving" 100 gold

on Mar 03, 2014

2nd diamond promos attempt... LETS GO

on Mar 03, 2014

GET
IT
DONE

 

You blow this and zen will beat you bro

on Mar 03, 2014

Another 0-3 Promo series. Endless fucking trolls and D/C's when I get into promos. Fuck THIS GAME

I basically trolled the last game though. Some fucker from the previous game was in the same queue with me and KNEW I wanted mid so he decided to take lulu mid for the 2nd time of the season and basically lose the game at champ select. So I randomly clicked on something and ended up jungle GP  

on Mar 03, 2014

OMG_ZEX
So I randomly clicked on something and ended up jungle GP

psst.... sometimes when you get pissed off you troll and reduce your odds of winning all the more.  Just sayin...

Anyway, sorry to hear that bro.  hopefully the next go is successful. 

on Mar 03, 2014

There's another way to look at that last game Cow played.  The person who "trolled" him in the game that he randomly picked GP to jungle with actually had a 100% win percentage with Lulu before that game.  They had won the only game they played before with her so who knows, maybe they had been practicing her a little in normals after she got popular in the LCS.

Everyone (with the exception of Cow and the Lulu who stole his mid) had pretty good stats as far as KDA goes, which really says some something considering they had a non-viable jungler who built Frozen Mallet.  Don't remember last time I saw that item in a >Silver game.

So who knows?  Maybe if Cow hadn't given up in champ select, he could have won that game, and the two others after that.  Winning three games in a row is not impossible.  Or at least not gone 0-3 in promos and gotten bumped down as much LP as he did would have been nice.

 

Sorry if this is harsh Cow but I hate to see you struggling to reach Diamond when you're very much talented enough to make it.  It's bad karma to troll people because someone stole your role.  There were three other people in that game who probably wanted you to do your best and you didn't.  

 

tl;dr Don't LoLKing your allies if you're the type of person that gives up in champ select easily.

moar tl;dr Don't ever build Frozen Mallet unless you find yourself slumming in a low Elo game and need something to make it hard for your Bronzey victims to not be able to run away.

on Mar 03, 2014

I always build frozen on GP :/ I usually go shiv before hand but I felt I needed to be tanky earlier that game.

Anyways I was just very frustrated with the two previous games and when lulu decided to troll me at champ select it pushed me over the edge and I didn't give a fuck about the next game. Even with the shit lulu and me trolling that game was winnable but there were many questionable decisions made as a team and some bad individual plays that made us lose. OFC playing a real jungler would of probably been enough to win the game but whatever. I played to win that game and it wasn't enough with GP.

on Mar 04, 2014

Lyte is answering quite a few questions about teambuilder over on reddit.  Worth a look through the comments imo

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ziwim/team_builder_may_be_the_best_thing_that_could/

 

on Mar 05, 2014

Some Vel'Koz thoughts:

-I think he is pretty viable but has a massive skill cap.
-You need some form of hard aoe CC on your team for him to be of use (WK ult, amumu, leona, alister, annie)
-I feel as though his early game is weak 
-if you land your knock up -> ground vagina combo you do massive damage, follow it up with ult almost always a kill
-fairs decently vs assassins save LB
-build wise I think rylias is a must because he has a small amount of cc and increasing kiting potential with his ground vagina is nice
-if you build a rylais liandries is a nice item to take with it and it is nice vs mundos/shyvannas
-I don't feel safe building him glass cannon 
-not sure if I want to build athene's or not... his mana costs are low but his abilities are very useful to farm with (3 stacks of passive GG minions) 
-death capless builds seem to be most effective (zhonya, void, rylai, liandry)

anyway more to come when I play him more
 

on Mar 05, 2014

Adding to this:

 

Although i think his level 4-5 is pretty weak, his level 2 is pretty redic if you can WQW.

His rank 1 ult is 500 damage + his passive. However, since it's hard to actually kill people just randomly i found out at the ~8 minute mark if you can just tag someone with a good Q, ult them? It does enough damage you will probably force them to either chug health potions or go base, thereby mostly wasting their first blue.

Fizz is a hard matchup

 

i think Athenes is okay in hard matchups, but i overwhelmingly prefer Morellonomicon unless the MR is critical. He really really wants CDR for his W, and Morellos gives a little bit of MP5 and a decent chunk of AP. He also can spread the ignite debuff across the entire team without too much trouble in teamfights.

 

Barrier > 2/3 Dorans > Morello > Zhonyas > Liandry > ??????????? is what i've been doing. The ????? is very hard to know indeed. i don't really like DC on him, but DC is always nice for midgame waveclear. Rylais feels a little too much AP and not enough HP, though i know you and Thunder both really like Rylais on him. i think that Rylais is a really good item to get if you're losing because it allows you to disengage fights.

on Mar 05, 2014

did anyone try to watch my stream tonight and have issues with it? 

Everytime I stream, I load up twitch in my client so I can join in on chat if there is any.  Tonight, I couldn't load video for some reason.  Anyone else take a look and have that problem? I restarted my pc once to try to resolve - not sure what the prob is. 

on Mar 06, 2014

that contest is going to end within next 7 days on my stream. 

on Mar 07, 2014

contest?

 

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