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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906

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on Mar 25, 2014

Yeah - perhaps I'm a little weird when it comes to ranked.  It typically takes me a bit and then I get into the mood for it again and get inspired.  Currently, that hasn't really happened. 

on Mar 25, 2014

I agree with Thunder. When I was in Gold I and the low Plats I was still getting 30 league points on a win. Currently I am getting 17-20 on a win or a loss. 

on Mar 27, 2014

I've been logging a bit of time in Diablo 3... haven't even touched the expansion pack... as I'm weird.  Maybe tonight.  Outside of that, just some arams on my alt in LoL.  Nothing too exciting here.  Been super busy with work as well

on Apr 07, 2014

Hey guys I have been keeping my ziggs guide up-to-date and I feel very confident in my ziggs play. If you ever wonder how to play ziggs check out the guide and up vote it. I think its one of the better ziggs guides on the site and would love to have it featured some day. I would be happy to answer any questions about it. 

http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906 

on Apr 07, 2014

I'll check this out later - you should edit your link so its clickable, though.  Happy to help and I'm sure I'll enjoy the read.

 

So, I had a few moments yesterday was I was actually really uncertain as to what my ranked 5's team should do against the team we were playing based on map objectives and team position... trying to get some advice re: what other folks would do in a similar situation, but I'm not exactly sure as the best way to get that sort of feedback.  Ah well... work time

on Apr 07, 2014

Well, if your lanes are going to take teleports, you actually have to use them effectively.  I never end up using mine well when I take it because I'm bad at remembering that my F key isn't Smite, but you made some bad calls on it that actually really hurt you.

For example, in the one game against the Penn State people, you had a key decision on whether to send Bryff or Heimer to defend against a splitpushing Shy while the rest of the team pushed mid.  You chose to send Bryff (no TP).  You should have sent Heimer (with TP).  As it played out, they made the obvious play where Shy simply left and arrived at the 4v4 first, turning it into a 5v4, and you guys lost a bad fight.  If you defend with a TP, you don't have to worry about that play.

Basically, if you take a TP, defend splitpushes with the TP, and split push yourself with the TP when possible.

on Apr 08, 2014

That's a really good point re: TP.  Honestly, it didn't even register that donger had TP to me at several points in that game... slow adaptation in my head after we did our lane swap. 

on Apr 08, 2014

Well.. I took a shot at handling the grimW situation.  We'll see how that goes.  Sent him a PM and one of the head honchos at MC as well.  I was quite direct so hopefully this will be the end of annoying things.  That said, things could get interesting tomorrow night if the response is negative. 

on Apr 09, 2014

That's still going on?  I'm assuming we're still talking about him barging into your channel mid-game and being disruptive.  What have you done personally to dissuade him from the behavior?  And who is the head honcho you talked to?  His mentor or an RFM or an SFM or Munsa?  Hopefully you didn't send a PM to a Staff.  Mostly just curious so I know better how to deal with that sorta stuff.  Right now my method is have a backup TS3 server of my own.  

Oh, and update your main post a little or get rid of it.  Scrolling through a bunch of inaccurate/outdated stuff is killing this blog and my mouse's scroll wheel.  Karl is Platinum and Cow- I mean The Artist Formerly Known As Cow Diddy is Diamond for instance...

on Apr 10, 2014

Hey guys I might take a little hiatus for a while.  As the MC part of this group will see: I've failed my candidacy again.  I have problems with not being included with things since forever in my life, so it's something that gets to me, strangely.  I'm just under the assumption people don't want me around, or I'm a negative impact in some way.  I just get stupid-sad over this type of stuff.  I'll catch you guys when I get over it.

-swan

on Apr 10, 2014

well it was nice to get to play the in-house game with you in any case

on Apr 10, 2014

It probably won't be long, hedgie... just need to breathe it out and forget about it for a few days.

on Apr 10, 2014

Thundercles
That's still going on? I'm assuming we're still talking about him barging into your channel mid-game and being disruptive. What have you done personally to dissuade him from the behavior? And who is the head honcho you talked to? His mentor or an RFM or an SFM or Munsa? Hopefully you didn't send a PM to a Staff. Mostly just curious so I know better how to deal with that sorta stuff. Right now my method is have a backup TS3 server of my own.

I spoke with LT.  I pm'd grim and pretty much told him (as nicely as possible) not to join my ts channels unless I invite him.  He didn't join yesterday anyway.  edit - I've developed a relationship with LT so I'm pretty confident me asking him about the best way to handle things was cool.  You describe what is likely proper channels, but I don't believe I stepped on any nerd toes here.

re: the main post - sure, I'll do some house cleaning in the very near future.

@swan - sorry to hear about candidacy not working out.  Your on a very exclusive list for me of folks that I'll always play with, though (and that's like a list of only 5-7 people or so).  So there!  I'd try not to get so bummed and just reapply if you want to take a shot again.  Besides, the more of us that get in, the more of us can comment and say positive things on your recruitment thread.

 

 

 

on Apr 10, 2014

@Swan - I got discouraged as well after my second attempt to get in, so I didn't apply again for a long time.  After that I stopped putting the effort out and I played with a few people that I got along really well with from MadCast and stopped putting out the always ignored "LFG SR Draft" messages in the chat room.  Eventually the folks that I constantly played with urged me to apply again and it was the old third times a charm thing.

You're a quality individual and I enjoy playing with you, so I'd love if you got in.  I've been thinking about it and I don't even know if I commented on your second thread.  I really think I did... maybe Pacov remembers?  Have had a lot of IRL things going on so I'm not 100% sure.  Anyway, enjoy your break from the game and when you come back maybe my ISP issues will be sorted out and Pacov will be off his D3 distraction and we can make an effort to get you introduced to the non cliquey/snobby types in the group.

 

@Pacov - Was actually kidding about you talking to LT about it.  Not a fan of the expression going through channels eh?  I guess if you have gotten to know him personally that's a different situation.

on Apr 10, 2014

yeah - I'm actually pretty surprised I made it in the first time.  I got hyper involved on the forums (as I enjoy that sort of thing anyway), organized an in house game night, and played with a ton of folks I'd generally wouldn't enjoy playing with (side note - my time trying to join MC is linked directly to the current problem I have with Grim - I reached out a bunch to play with a bunch of folks). I also managed to piss off a few people here and there (seems like I might be good at that, eh).  Anyway, I was still surprised when I made it in. 

Nowadays, I only occasionally play with MC folks in LoL.  I typically accept invites when they are sent out and occasionally try to recruit for games if folks are gold or > (I'm not allowed to join my own games btw).  Being an actual member didn't really change that much, though I'd feel the same as swan if I didn't make it in. 

Anyway, don't sweat it, Swan.  I even ask about you most nights when you aren't on wondering where you are.  We like ya, buddy. 

 

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